Boxing Against a Random Thrower (More Detailed Question Inside)

I don't watch the youtube videos expecting to become as good as some of you guys maybe. I just watch them to get a clue to how to move and how to do different hits without injuring myself. But I'll try to talk my parents into letting me hopefully something will change.

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Originally Posted by galley

I don't watch the youtube videos expecting to become as good as some of you guys maybe. I just watch them to get a clue to how to move and how to do different hits without injuring myself. But I'll try to talk my parents into letting me hopefully something will change.

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There is nothing wrong with gathering information from websites or utube, it is why we are here. We are learning and sharing what we know, and as we go. It all helps. If until you can find a way it is all you have, okay, make the best of it. I suggest you look into some of our conditioning routines. Those you can do at home. Of course still bang your bag around. Use what you have. Point is, and simply, yes, talk to your parents or finda way to make it happen if it is truly what you want to do.

You are not a boxer until you've walked thru the door and paid your dues, in both time and pain. That's my opinion, anyway.

Yea man, I already lift every other day... and almost year around I run long distance. Cross Country and Track haha. But thanks for all the advice you guys gave me, I really appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by Von Milash

spot on rozzy. countering newbs is easier than shooting fish in a barrel.


"sot on" oh shit. im becoming british. ;D

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I think it's best way to learn to counter. Once you learn the basic counters against the newbs, you can start to apply and refine it against better competition. It's hard to practice counterpuncher against more savy, experienced guys. When I'm in with better boxers, I focus on trying to work off my jab and impose my will on offensive. I'm much better off trying to lead and letting them counter me. That way, they expose my flaws on offense and it gives me things to work on between sparring sessions. If I fight that style against less experienced guys, I just don't learn as much. I usually start out and box a round or most of a round with my normal aggressive style, but if I'm landing too easily and not getting hit back, I back off and let them come to me more. It's all about getting most learning out of whoever you are sparring with.

One punch will end there fights, liver punch. Every single time one of those guys or other newbies fight they throw a lead right haymaker . Duck under it, step in and punch a shovel hook (mix between hook and uppercut) into their right ribs aka a liver shot. Most likely they would have not experienced this and will drop them the first time they receive it. This tactic I find is great for defending myself when jackasses like to swing at you just because you do boxing, you then can then trip them from this position and walk away without the risk of signifciantly hurting yourself or them. But try get to a gym mate, you will be much better for it.

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

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Originally Posted by galley

I would get a real boxing trainer if my parents would allow it. But the nearest boxing gym is about 30-40 minutes away and I dont have a car therefore my parents would have to drive and they dont want to. So you tube is the closest thing i got to that.

I'd love to get real training.

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Look, I realized I took a shot against you in my first reply, but honestly, if you want to box bad enough, you'll find a way. I take my bicycle often to my gym 30-40+ mins one way. I pay for my stuff often with my paper route. My dad does help me out, but if he didn't, I'd still find away.

Suggesting experience by watching youtube vids you are just setting yourself for ridicule, and also, for disappointment thinking you are actually learning boxing. For you are not. The only way to learn is to find a way to get your ass to a gym. Once there, you'll know soon enough if this sport is for you or not, and in a hurry too.

Anyway, good luck, hope you find your way there.

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Agreed. If you really want to do it and the only thing stopping you is a ride, that's a pretty weak excuse. And 9 times out of 10 if a parent sees their kids is driven enough to do something on their own and stick with it they'll help out.

Putting on gloves and swinging wildly with your buddies is incredibly dangerous. I'm not go in to all the injuries that could result because I have a feeling I'd be wasting my time.

If you really love boxing you'll join the gym. Join with a friend and get a ride from them, ride the bus, whatever. If you don't have the drive to even get to a gym you'll never stick with it and you'll never be any good. But if you do really want to do it, you will.

Maybe Gally's parets are drunks and hate him. ;D


seriously, as mich as boxing is a great first line of defense, there are other things you can do/learn in the meantime until you get wheel.

muay thai, judo, and brazilian jui jitsu are great options. Even gecco roman wrestling is a great combat sport to learn and any of these will compliment boing skills quite nicely....which you can pick up later.

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Originally Posted by Von Milash

Maybe Gally's parets are drunks and hate him. ;D


seriously, as mich as boxing is a great first line of defense, there are other things you can do/learn in the meantime until you get wheel.

muay thai, judo, and brazilian jui jitsu are great options. Even gecco roman wrestling is a great combat sport to learn and any of these will compliment boing skills quite nicely....which you can pick up later.

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It's a hell of a lot faster to become effective with Bjj or Muay Thai than it is with boxing.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by Von Milash

Maybe Gally's parets are drunks and hate him. ;D


seriously, as mich as boxing is a great first line of defense, there are other things you can do/learn in the meantime until you get wheel.

muay thai, judo, and brazilian jui jitsu are great options. Even gecco roman wrestling is a great combat sport to learn and any of these will compliment boing skills quite nicely....which you can pick up later.

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It's a hell of a lot faster to become effective with Bjj or Muay Thai than it is with boxing.

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How much Muay Thai does it take, do you think, to get effective with the basics? Since my boxing gym is attached to a Muay Thai gym and I can take those classes anytime, I've considered giving it a try, but I didn't want to mix up my techniques at this point in my learning. Not that I'm particularly concerned with street fighting and self-defense, but I'm kinda curious. They even offer BJJ once per week, but I haven't gotten around to giving it a try.

To actually be good at Muy Thai takes alot of conditioning,its murder on your shins

Ya know, as ridiculous as this may sound, it isn't bad practice fighting or sparring these wild nut backyard type guys if you're an amateur. For about 1/2 of the people I see at tours are basically doing just that, but just with slightly more technique.

Atleast it prepares you a little bit for it.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

To actually be good at Muy Thai takes alot of conditioning,its murder on your shins

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That I know. The Muay Thai guys are conditioned incredibly well. I've watch their workouts, and they are tough SOB's. They're conditioning routine is brutal.

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

To actually be good at Muy Thai takes alot of conditioning,its murder on your shins

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That I know. The Muay Thai guys are conditioned incredibly well. I've watch their workouts, and they are tough SOB's. They're conditioning routine is brutal.

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I did it a bit,my shins are still a scar from knee down. I mean it just tears you the bad word up

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

To actually be good at Muy Thai takes alot of conditioning,its murder on your shins

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That I know. The Muay Thai guys are conditioned incredibly well. I've watch their workouts, and they are tough SOB's. They're conditioning routine is brutal.

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I did it a bit,my shins are still a scar from knee down. I mean it just tears you the bad word up

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I am curious about Muay thai, though I hate a knock on a shin. Was wondering if your shins get used to it, and if the bones actually get tougher after practicing it for a while?

On a related note, what are your guys opinions on the benefits of doing a little kickboxing or Muay Thai to complement boxing? Does the act of repeatedly kicking a heavy bag (with proper form, not wellying it like a football) help develope leg strength and balance?

but after a time it is nice to get hit in the shins and merely exhale and no harm is done...he he