you are a fag who spent his whole time playing online gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by IronfisT
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you are a fag who spent his whole time playing online gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by IronfisT
There's a good article on ESPN boxing about Mike, it's not Dan Rafaels though. He applauds Tyson as an entertainer, but has little patience for the Tyson is legend talk that some fans over disillusioned about :) oops /bait
Tyson is the most overated fighter of all time. He feasted on the worst heavyweight division of all time. He doesn't make it into my all time top 20 of heavyweights. People always talk alot about remebering Tyson in the late eighties. So I decided to go back and look at his most impressive win against Spinks. Sadly all I saw was the same style I saw sat night. No defense, no patience and swinging for the fences every time. It is so sad that he didn't fight Holyfield, Lewis or Bowe early in his career so we wouldn't have to listen to this legend crap. What a chump
a prime tyson had great head movement, he didnt throw wild shots, they were short and accurate. He is a pressure fighter, he has patience he just fights with that style and overwhelms youQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
watch the spinks fight buddy....you will see nothing but wild shots, and very little head movement....he looks like a one dimensional amateur
Vanchilds If you genuinely believe what you just said, cool :) , i also don't see the worth in other revered fighters. If not then why say it? "late eighties"? "early in his career"? As late as 89 lewis had fought 6 pro fights against typical opposition, if you'd put him in with the heavyweight champion then good luck to you! I have a lot of respect for Bowe, but he had about a dozen fights at a similar standard at that time, good luck to him too! Evander has the best chance in late 80s, was still fighting for Continental Americas title or whatever it's called in 89 and cruiserweight before that, and against a Tyson from 86 to 88/9 i'd pick Mike every time. Watch some more of fights before Spinks, i'm not explaining what the guy did in the ring to you if that's all the time you have for the guy, it's not exactly a hard task to sit through his 80s performances...
do one dimensional amateurs run through hall of famers in 91 seconds? huh? buddy?Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
spinks was scared, he sensed it. he didnt really have to be really defensive and laid back.
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Originally Posted by alex w
hey just wondering, has tyson ever asked rooney back to train him?
i know he fired him on ther orders of don king but did tyson and rooney actually fall out?
do u think tyson would have beat holyfield if the fight took place in 1992?
some have doubted holyfield would have won if it had but i, although a tyson fan, beg to differ.
i think tyson would have given holyfield a better fight but i still think holyfield would have won.
dont forget, in 1992, holyfield would have been younger aswell.
i analysed holyfields style and wow, that guy is some great counterattacker.
he did this with bowe aswell. holyfield not only beat tyson with heart and guts but he beat him mostly with his technical abilites.
im a tyson fan but i will acknowledge his weaknesses aswell and will admit that he will meet opponents who can waste him. and holyfield is definately one of them.
some have said holyfield beat tyson only cos he was washed up but i dont agree.
holyfield KNEW how to beat him and proved it. :badass: :crowd: :bedromp: :army:
Some journalist once asked a variety of trainers including rooney, atlas, steward etc about training him and they all pretty much said if it was on their terms and Tyson behaved as their other fighters did then yes they would, even Atlas said that. And i wouldn't be so quick to place all the blame on King for the break up of that association, yeah he played a part but Tyson relationships with all authority figures in his life have been unsteady, even Cus.
if tyson is a one dimensional amateur then what does that make frazier? foreman? marciano? liston?
i suppose u want to rank foreman as one of the all time greats and label tyson as overhyped? that is quite a laugh. thanks for that mate.
no one in boxing history made the impact that tyson did. when he first appeard on the scene, he blew his opponents away in the first round. he did this for at least his first 10-13 fights.
all fighters want the ability to knock out their opponents as quickly as possible but very few can do it and do it with such style.
and when people disrespect tyson, it is simple jealousy. Their so called top 20 heavyweights cannot devastate an opponent like tyson can so start mocking him.
and i agree with old school, if u consider tyson overhyped, then the other heavyweight fighters in history is not even worth mentioning.
and whats all this rubbish about tyson beating fighters just because the heavyweight division wasnt so good back then? Ha!, they say that now just cos tysons career has taken a dramatic drop but they werent so cocky back then.
in the 80's, spinks was supposed to give tyson a hard time due to his experience. whoomfppph!! ko'd in the 1st.
biggs was supposed to trouble tyson due to his height and experience. pow!!!! ko'd ij the 7th and sent to planet mars.
ruddock was the number 2 contender and ko'd in the 7th. although premature i agree but he was in trouble and knocked down twice.
people were so eager to see tyson back then, gasping in awe at his power and exciting fighting style. But as soon as hes beat by douglas and holyfield, they start giving him a hard time. saying hes overhyped, was beaten by better opponents.
i'll tell u one thing, i respect holyfield but he only became more famous cos he beat tyson.
douglas, became a superstar cos he beat tyson.
lewis wanted to beat tyson cos he knew that would be the only way people would pay any attention to him.
tyson on the other hand, was feared and got the publics attention from his first 4-5 fights fighting nobodys.
boxers become famous only if they beat tyson.
tyson doesnt need anyone to make him famous.
so all u who say that tyson doesnt belong in your top 20 list, think befoer u speak cos  that really is an embarrassing statement.
He really didn't have time to get in the rhythm, no? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
*gasps* surely not another 14 year old lame kid, threatening to beat me up from the safety of his keyboard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony4852
im even more cared than usual, because this kid has made 2 posts now, once pretending that his avatar (a model called bret harnet) is him and asking for the ladies opinion, and another proclaiming he was a ledgend, which nobody agreed with.
oh god help me, what am i to do? not only that, but he made a massive sweeping statement about me being overweight, and called me a FAG
i guess the only thing for me to do is run and hide in my oxygen bubble with my doughnuts and hope he doesnt find me.