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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I think Paz was better than Manfredo.
I keeed, I keeed. ;D
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Damn! Sheep...Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I think Paz was better than Manfredo.
I keeed, I keeed. ;D
Judah "after Tszyu" is about as good as Tyson "after prison".Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleJudah better than Tyson?Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Is Judah better than the "before prison," Tyson? Not yet, but will be soon.
Is Judah better than the "after prison," Tyson? By a landslide.
Updating my list.
Alabama- Joe Louis
Alaska
Arizona- Michael Carbajal
Arkansas
California
Colorado- Jack Dempsey
Connecticut- Willie Pep
Delaware-
Florida- Roy Jones
Georgia- Sugar Ray Robinson
Hawaii
Idaho-
Illinois
Indiana-
Iowa-
Kansas-
Kentucky- Muhammad Ali
Louisiana- Tony Canzoneri
Maine-
Maryland- Joe Gans
Massachusetts- Rocky Marciano
Michigan- Stanely Ketchel
Minnesota-
Mississippi- Henry Armstrong
Missouri-
Montana-
Nebraska-
Nevada-
New Hampshire-
New Jersey- Micky Walker
New Mexico- Bob Foster
New York- Benny Leonard
North Carolina-
North Dakota- Virgil Hill
Ohio- Ezzard Charles
Oklahoma-
Oregon-
Pennsylvania- Harry Greb
Rhode Island- Vinny Pazienza
South Carolina- Joe Frazier
South Dakota-
Tennessee-
Texas- Jack Johnson
Utah-
Vermont-
Virginia- Pernell Whitaker
Washington-
West Virginia-
Wisconsin-
Wyoming-
Louisiana has to be John Dulpessis...............Umm no;D
Old Bones Joe Brown or Canzoneri.Trying hard to think of ANY other fighter from North Dakota Lol....
How about Michael Spinks for Missouri?
And can anyone think of a notable fighter from Washington besides Greg Haugen? He's the only guy I can think of.
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Originally Posted by eagleJudah "after Tszyu" is about as good as Tyson "after prison".Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Is Judah better than the "before prison," Tyson? Not yet, but will be soon.
Is Judah better than the "after prison," Tyson? By a landslide.
Not so sure about that when you consider that Judah was the last welterweight champion to hold all major world championship belts. He achieved this greatness after the Tszyu fight.
Well after prison Tyson won a WBC title. He lost to every top quality fighter he faced after prison, (Tyson, Lewis) and a couple of journeymen(Williams, Mcbride).Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleJudah "after Tszyu" is about as good as Tyson "after prison".Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Not so sure about that when you consider that Judah was the last welterweight champion to hold all major world championship belts. He achieved this greatness after the Tszyu fight.
After Tszyu, Judah lost to all top quality fighters he faced(Mayweather, Cotto) and a couple of journeymen(Baldomir, Spinks). There are similiarities there.
Difference is before prison Tyson achieved a lot more then Judah did before Tszyu.
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Originally Posted by eagleWell after prison Tyson won a WBC title. He lost to every top quality fighter he faced after prison, (Tyson, Lewis) and a couple of journeymen(Williams, Mcbride).Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Not so sure about that when you consider that Judah was the last welterweight champion to hold all major world championship belts. He achieved this greatness after the Tszyu fight.
After Tszyu, Judah lost to all top quality fighters he faced(Mayweather, Cotto) and a couple of journeymen(Baldomir, Spinks). There are similiarities there.
Difference is before prison Tyson achieved a lot more then Judah did before Tszyu.
"Pre prison," Tyson was an all time great. I'll never argue that. But Judah's career isn't over yet which is why I said that Judah is not as good as "Before prison," YET.
He'll beat Clottey and likely fight the loser of the Margarito vs. Cotto fight. After he wins that fight (it will be against Margarito;)) he will rematch Cotto. Zab can beat Cotto as long as he doesn't get all stupid again and try to stand there and trade shots with him.
I like your positive thinking. Have some rep.Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleWell after prison Tyson won a WBC title. He lost to every top quality fighter he faced after prison, (Tyson, Lewis) and a couple of journeymen(Williams, Mcbride).Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
After Tszyu, Judah lost to all top quality fighters he faced(Mayweather, Cotto) and a couple of journeymen(Baldomir, Spinks). There are similiarities there.
Difference is before prison Tyson achieved a lot more then Judah did before Tszyu.
"Pre prison," Tyson was an all time great. I'll never argue that. But Judah's career isn't over yet which is why I said that Judah is not as good as "Before prison," YET.
He'll beat Clottey and likely fight the loser of the Margarito vs. Cotto fight. After he wins that fight (it will be against Margarito;)) he will rematch Cotto. Zab can beat Cotto as long as he doesn't get all stupid again and try to stand there and trade shots with him.
Was Sonny Liston form Missouri?
Michael Nunn- Iowa
And Pennsylvania?
Hopkins
Greb
Holmes
Frazier
Sonny Liston was born in ArkansasQuote:
Was Sonny Liston form Missouri?