Lamont Peterson

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I can't see him beating either of the guys who fought for the WBO title on Saturday night.

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The point is Peterson hasnt even got a title shot yet, but guys like Froch, Rees, Lockett etc get shots at titles doing just as little as Lamont. Dot act as tho US fighters are protected more than British fighters just cos one US fighter has had an easy run.

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I didn't say they were. I'm pleased to see that we both agree that there are cases of US fighters being over-protected.

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No doubt there are cases, but British fighters are far more protected in general.

Not to mention your average 13 loss American fighter based on the West Coast is far better then your average 13 loss British fighter.

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by eagle

The point is Peterson hasnt even got a title shot yet, but guys like Froch, Rees, Lockett etc get shots at titles doing just as little as Lamont. Dot act as tho US fighters are protected more than British fighters just cos one US fighter has had an easy run.

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I didn't say they were. I'm pleased to see that we both agree that there are cases of US fighters being over-protected.

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No doubt there are cases, but British fighters are far more protected in general.

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I'm just pleased you agree with me.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I didn't say they were. I'm pleased to see that we both agree that there are cases of US fighters being over-protected.

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No doubt there are cases, but British fighters are far more protected in general.

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I'm just pleased you agree with me.

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I give Lamont a good chance against either Holt or Torres. They are good but not great champions by any means.

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by eagle

No doubt there are cases, but British fighters are far more protected in general.

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I'm just pleased you agree with me.

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I give Lamont a good chance against either Holt or Torres. They are good but not great champions by any means.

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They're not great at all but they're both at a higher level than Lamont.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm just pleased you agree with me.

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I give Lamont a good chance against either Holt or Torres. They are good but not great champions by any means.

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They're not great at all but they're both at a higher level than Lamont.

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What makes u say that? Who have they beat that would trouble Lamont?
Holt had an MD against shot Tackie, and Torres has had one big name fight and got beat easy by Cotto.
Other than that they have fought mainly journeymen and tomato cans.

They're apparently working on Holt-Peterson for the first defense. I think that's risky for Lamont, I think he's the more well rounded fighter but stylistically its a risky fight for him. Holt's biggest weakness is that glass jaw but Lamont really doesn't hit hard and he'd have to press the fight against Holt who's the faster guy.

I would pick Peterson over Torres fairly confidently, a lot better matchup for Lamont IMO.

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by eagle

I give Lamont a good chance against either Holt or Torres. They are good but not great champions by any means.

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They're not great at all but they're both at a higher level than Lamont.

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What makes u say that? Who have they beat that would trouble Lamont?
Holt had an MD against shot Tackie, and Torres has had one big name fight and got beat easy by Cotto.
Other than that they have fought mainly journeymen and tomato cans.

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They've both fought fighters with better records than the guy Peterson fought on Saturday night. Peterson is fighting at a level well below those two. I think both of them stop Lamont or give him a good battering for twelve rounds. I think Peterson is Kermit Cintron without the power. We'll see if I'm right eventually. :)

He may not make it at the top level (depends on what the top level is, especially at 140 that could include guys that aren't top level fighters) but he doesn't fight anything like Kermit Cintron. I don't know if that was a stylistic comparison or just saying he was overhyped.

I hate the Peterson Brothers

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

I hate the Peterson Brothers

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May I ask why? I mean they are one of the better stories in boxing homeless as teenagers living off the streets before taken in by Barry Hunter and both are very humble and soft spoken and neither are bad to watch in the ring. Don't get how someone can hate that.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

He may not make it at the top level (depends on what the top level is, especially at 140 that could include guys that aren't top level fighters) but he doesn't fight anything like Kermit Cintron. I don't know if that was a stylistic comparison or just saying he was overhyped.

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No, I think he hasn't got it mentally.

What makes you think that? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by amat

What makes you think that? Just curious.

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Dunno. I've only ever seen him fight on Saturday, or at least I half watched it in a bar and watched the recording when I got home from my weekend away, so I'm basing my considered opinion on one fight. :) I just have the feeling he doesn't quite have it for some reason.

Just watched it. Obviously I was impressed it was virtually the same stuff we have seen from him since he turned pro. Didn't see the jab as much as I would have liked, but that's also much the same as what we have seen for a while. Tight guard as usual, ripped with the hooks. Fought at a consistent pace, didn't get to wild but maybe you would like to see more fire as far as the offensive attack but I think better safe then sorry.

Holt is a tricky match up, good boxer going to the side, fast guy who boxes well moving laterally. Would be interesting to see who's faster. I would take Peterson but there would be some close rounds.

This is a complete 180 from my position that Holt would be easier then Torres. Rewatched Torres-Holt 1 before I watched the rematch and I'm inclined to agree with OumaFan in that Torres would be the easier matchup. Still a chin checker though which would make me nervous no matter who I sent in there with him. I wouldn't advise either of those immediately to be honest.

Ngoudjo, Bailey, Lazcano ect.

Those are the guys that he should be stepping up to. It doesn't really make much sense to have been moved so gradually and deliberately for so long, plateau'd at the C level of 140 and then jump all the way to the top guys without making a stop in between. And it's not like anyone would complain if those fights are made as they represent steps up too.