Apparently this fight will only happen if Lacy messes up his "gimme" next week.
HBO want Taylor-Lacy NOT Froch.
Obviously Taylor doesn't give a funk about the WBC belt if he can earn MORE money going in another direction ;)
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Apparently this fight will only happen if Lacy messes up his "gimme" next week.
HBO want Taylor-Lacy NOT Froch.
Obviously Taylor doesn't give a funk about the WBC belt if he can earn MORE money going in another direction ;)
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Didnt realise Lacy had a gimme lined up . Anyone weve ever heard of ?
That makes it more unlikley Froch gets his chance then cuz Jermain goes for the money not glory . He admitted as much after the Spinks fight
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Taylor has fought Bernard Hopkins when he was one of the top P4P, Winky Wright when he was 2 P4P and Kelly Pavlik twice who might be the scariest guy in boxing, him or Cotto. He's not scared of Carl Froch.
Epifanio Mendoza, very hard hitter but past his best. Maybe the same could be said of Lacy but Lacy operates at a higher level.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Didnt realise Lacy had a gimme lined up . Anyone weve ever heard of ?
That makes it more unlikley Froch gets his chance then cuz Jermain goes for the money not glory . He admitted as much after the Spinks fight
And Lacy is ranked above Froch in the Ring rankings, Taylor is ranked 10th he wants to climb and make money, it's obvious who the better fight is for him even though I would love to see him take Froch's undefeated record.
Lacy-Taylor could possibly be for Calzaghe's vacted WBO title when/if it happens.
Winky was never p4p number 2 was he? and even so Carl hits A LOT harder than winky wright can. Maybe after loosing to Pavlik twice he doesnt want to get involved with a live fighter like Froch. Lacy an easy oppanent for Taylor IMO.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Taylor has fought Bernard Hopkins when he was one of the top P4P, Winky Wright when he was 2 P4P and Kelly Pavlik twice who might be the scariest guy in boxing, him or Cotto. He's not scared of Carl Froch.
I dont get why he wont fight Froch instead of Lacy, its for the WBC belt. Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.
Yes he was number 2 before and even on some lists after the Taylor fight. Froch is going to get exposed it's just a matter of who will do the exposing. Unless he revamps his game completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonWinky was never p4p number 2 was he? and even so Carl hits A LOT harder than winky wright can. Maybe after loosing to Pavlik twice he doesnt want to get involved with a live fighter like Froch. Lacy an easy oppanent for Taylor IMO.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Taylor has fought Bernard Hopkins when he was one of the top P4P, Winky Wright when he was 2 P4P and Kelly Pavlik twice who might be the scariest guy in boxing, him or Cotto. He's not scared of Carl Froch.
I dont get why he wont fight Froch instead of Lacy, its for the WBC belt. Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.
The reasons are quite simple. HBO wants him to fight Lacy. Lacy brings more money and is more highly rated.
You need to watch more of Froch he really is going to bring problems to any fighter at 168-175. You will see trust me, he forces the fight and you simply cant box him for 12 rounds. He makes people trade blows, this is where he is deadly, with his power and nimble accurate punches, it wears fighters down. That why a fight with Taylor would be perfect for Froch, Taylor gets tierd down the strech and he also likes to trade punches, what carl likes doing best. Taylor may be a bit quicker, but Taylor will slow down when hes getting constant pressure from Froch, which he will apply for 12 rounds none stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by amatYes he was number 2 before and even on some lists after the Taylor fight. Froch is going to get exposed it's just a matter of who will do the exposing. Unless he revamps his game completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonWinky was never p4p number 2 was he? and even so Carl hits A LOT harder than winky wright can. Maybe after loosing to Pavlik twice he doesnt want to get involved with a live fighter like Froch. Lacy an easy oppanent for Taylor IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
I dont get why he wont fight Froch instead of Lacy, its for the WBC belt. Lacy is a complete bum and hes proved that in his last 3 outings. Froch is a true contender compared with Lacy.
The reasons are quite simple. HBO wants him to fight Lacy. Lacy brings more money and is more highly rated.
Taylor will expose the 168 pound version of Vic Darchinyan quite easily...;D
Pavlik needs to fight Arthur Abraham to really lock up the Middleweight division, I think thats the missing piece to Pavliks utter domination of the division, then he should move up
Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Though not sure where Pavlik fits in here ???
Thats a real asshole type comment, wouldnt you agree... Froch has proved dick!!!!!! so I dont know were all this true contender crap is coming from:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I read the 1st couple of posts and it seemed that people were hastily matching up Pavlik with Froch already... Though after Taylor demolishes him I'm not quite sure there will be enough left of him to fill a shoebox let alone get snuffed out by Pavlik;DQuote:
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Though not sure where Pavlik fits in here ???
Lacy really has though; Domintated one side beating by JC, Tyspko was robbed IMO and he bearly beat Manfraudo. Therefore proving me point that hes a bum, hes never going to challenge for a title again and Taylor would beat him easily. Froch is a true contender, hes number in the WBC, Inkin fagged out of his last fight, hes 23-0 19kos, I think that proves that hes certainly belongs to fight with the higher tier fighters in the 168 weights class. Thats why I want this Taylor match badly. Either way, Froch will move on to bigger better fights if Taylor doesnt take this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT RockThats a real asshole type comment, wouldnt you agree... Froch has proved dick!!!!!! so I dont know were all this true contender crap is coming from:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
And I saw Dale Westerman give Carl Froch a mighty run for his money and tag him all over, a 15-5 fighter before he collapsed down the stretch and not get stopped by a punch but because he was to tired to continue. Froch was exposed that night imo.
Jermain Taylor is no Dale Westerman.
Who did he prove it against? No matter what you say, Lacy was still champion, defended multiple times and against better fighters then Froch has ever faced. He's had a bad run I will admit that, but the fact remains that Calzaghe wasn't even Ring champion until he beat Lacy, that has to account for something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonLacy really has though; Domintated one side beating by JC, Tyspko was robbed IMO and he bearly beat Manfraudo. Therefore proving me point that hes a bum, hes never going to challenge for a title again and Taylor would beat him easily. Froch is a true contender, hes number in the WBC, Inkin fagged out of his last fight, hes 23-0 19kos, I think that proves that hes certainly belongs to fight with the higher tier fighters in the 168 weights class. Thats why I want this Taylor match badly. Either way, Froch will move on to bigger better fights if Taylor doesnt take this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT RockThats a real asshole type comment, wouldnt you agree... Froch has proved dick!!!!!! so I dont know were all this true contender crap is coming from:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Froch to this point has done nothing but beat C level fighters and struggle with some of them. I can see how you like Froch, exciting and has power but it's pretty obvious that he's got the style that will fail at the top level or even on the second tier.