I did not see any bias. Cotto was winning the entire first half of the fight. At the time he got knocked out, I already scored 7 rounds in the bag for him.
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I did not see any bias. Cotto was winning the entire first half of the fight. At the time he got knocked out, I already scored 7 rounds in the bag for him.
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
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Originally Posted by MarkusdarkusQuote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
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Cotto's punches had nothing "pitter-patter" about them. If you see a head snap back or twist to the side, that's a real shot. Cotto was easily winning the fight by the 6th and I even had him up by a round or 2 by the time of the stoppage. Margarito wore him down, and Cotto was in survival mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
AND no way is Cotto's punching power in question here. Shane and Margarito are known for their chins and their ability to never be knocked out. Cotto doesn't exactly look to go the distance so fighting Shane and Tony is one hell of a task to take on.
Max Kellerman was horrible and I actually missed Larry Merchant. Cotto won some of the early rounds, but did not "dominate" any round. The fight was close going into the 11th, but Magaritos relentless pressure and ability to walk through Cottos punches in addition to his body punches and punch output, wore down Cotto physically and mentally. Both men fought as best as they could, but Margarito was the better man last night. Great night for boxing and it shows you dont need to trash talk before a fight to have a classic fight for the fans. Cotto is a warrior and will be back on top, and Margarito finally gets the respect he deserves...Great undercard too.
He wasn't dominating, but he did edge out just about every round from 1 to 7, which on paper would like like he was dominating.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
I don't think anyone mentioned this before! It reminds me of Pavlik v Taylor and Pacquiao v Morales type fights. There was no trash talking before the fights, but two people talking with their fists.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Their round by round scoring wasn't all that bad and they were a little biased when calling Cottos shots. I had Margarito clearly winning round 2 and I gave him round 6 in a close one as well.
They really missed the boat in the ones story though. The story of this fight was the aggression and body work wearing Cotto down. He looked so much faster in the 1st 5 rounds, but he didn't protect the body and he was eventually gonna slow down. When Tony almost drop him with a body shot in round 2 I thought Cotto probably had some cracked ribs on his right side.
Cotto was so much quicker that Tony couldn't land a right to save his life, but he just kept pounding away at the body and Cotto slowed and tired enough to get hit in the head. He broke him down, he broke his will. You could see it by the 7th that Cotto was not going to win the fight. At that point he wasn't moving as well, he was just backing up to get away. He was already exhausted and the Body shots in the later rounds took his will to fight. By rounds 10 and 11, I was in fear for Cotto's safety.
Also it seemed Cottos shots had so much less steam after round 6, this was also a result of the body work. The announcers really blew a text book chance to educate the fans about the value of a good body attack and they showed considerable bias instead.
The body work won this fight early. I also thought Mayweather won the Hatton fight with the body work he did early. Its like putting money in the bank for later in the fight. Eventually your opponent will slow and weaken if you can sustain an early body attack. And Margarito, like Floyd, will keep going to the body even when a guy is hurt to the head. Margarito was maybe a little hurt a couple times, but never seriously. It seemed Cotto's punches were never really turned over, even when he snapped the head. Margarito has a chin of steel. Margarito also completely sold out to protect his own body. After the 1st round, I don't think he though Cotto could hurt him so he left himself a little more open to the head while dominating the body exchange. Its really the only way he couldv'e won the fight. If Cotto couldv'e protected the body, he wouldn't have tired and he would have won a wide decision. The post fight was crap. You could tell HBO was unhappy that their guy got KOed.
I though Lampley was his usual biased self. But Manny Steward and Max Kellerman was calling it like they saw it, which was even though Cotto was dominating early, Margarito was closing the gap and they weren't sure if Cotto could keep up that pace.
Spot on. The top rank commentators on Setanta missed the boat as well, and it was only by the 8th that they realised what was really going on in the fight. While Cotto was winning the rounds, Margarito was putting genuine damage in the bank as early as the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRBOXINGFAN
Tony's a beast, he did take some serious headshots in that fight, but the difference was they didn't have cumilative effect like Margarito's steady aggression.
This needs bringing up, saying Cotto's left hook is pitter pat is one of the most atrocious comments I've ever seen on this site from someone who pretends to be an actual boxing fan.Quote:
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Originally Posted by amat
Dont.
Margarito would hammer Cotto and they would be talking about a shot Cotto landed 30secs ago Cotto would get a shot off and "hard right hand from Miguel Cotto"
And yes the 6th round was when the fight was won imo Cotto kinda gave up it seemed.
I also had Cotto winning the first 6 rounds. HBO with the exception of Manny was bias as normal. Margarito was landing some good shots even in the first 6 rounds and they kind of went un notice.
I normally like max but he just really annoyed me this fight. everytime he spoke he just pissed me off. It's like everytime he spoke he was trying to prove that he knows boxing.
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Originally Posted by amatThis needs bringing up, saying Cotto's left hook is pitter pat is one of the most atrocious comments I've ever seen on this site from someone who pretends to be an actual boxing fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkusdarkusQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
Dont.
Margarito would hammer Cotto and they would be talking about a shot Cotto landed 30secs ago Cotto would get a shot off and "hard right hand from Miguel Cotto"
And yes the 6th round was when the fight was won imo Cotto kinda gave up it seemed.
The shot landed in round 10 or 11 he was gone by then it was an arm hook.
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Originally Posted by lance UppercutHe wasn't dominating, but he did edge out just about every round from 1 to 7, which on paper would like like he was dominating.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
There was no edging about rgs 2 or 6 Margarito clearly took those rounds.