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yes very interesting.....but I do believe even though Cotto was land more shots I think that judging the more effective punching from Margarito should have won him some of the rounds. Also I think aggression should not be over looked and should be scored more over pitty pat type fighters such has Cotto.
I think Saturday night might have showed Cotto to be an average puncher at this weight.
Job Biscuit (It was a classic boxer v's brawler match up)!!!
eh eh!!
I enjoyed the fight so much that it never crossed my mind about a decision going to Cotto. However, the way HBO handled the post fight scenario I do believe it would have gone to Cotto. HBO would have gladly given us a rematch to clear the controversy. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .
I Think Margarito felt that way too and was poised to wear down and KO Cotto ....... He repeatedly told his corner he would KO Cotto and they would ground him by telling him not to get over confident.
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Originally Posted by Otley
are you blind you had it 98-94?!!! HOw the fuck did you get that? Wow some people really have no idea how to score a fight. What fight were you watching?
it is all about opinion and how you read a fight.....there are no clear process on what is right and what is wrong when judging a fight.......my opinion was though Cotto was dancing about and rattling off arm punches that Margarito was the one coming forward and landing the more effective punches....98-94 was my score.....if thats wrong I can't see how??
Job Biscuit (Some rounds were close and could have gone either way....I liked what Margarito was doing so I scored for him ...in my opinion)!!!
eh eh!!
cotto was landing flurries flushly, it was margarito who at first was landing shots just on the arms and the gloves,
i had it 96-94 cotto going into the 11th but the tide had turned by that point and margarito would have won the 12th if cotto had carried on and ultimatley the fight,
you must have had a few even rounds to get 98-94 as there dont seem that many points to go round at that stage of the fight
Yes I had 2 rnds even....couldn't separate them......I don't like given even rnds but that was my opinion at the time.....I can't take back what I judged at the time.....judging fights is what you Interpreting at that moment.....3 judges could be reading 3 totally different scores...it dosn't make it right but that is what happens....usually the judges do get it right but on Saturday I think if the fight had gone the distance Cotto would have won a close decision and there could have been an up roar regarding the scores....!!!
Job Biscuit (98-94 was a fair reflection of the fight...i think)!!!
eh eh!!
well two had margo up by 2 points so i cant really see how cotto could win the decision, i think alot of people including the judges focused too much on margaritos aggresion early on when to me it seemed all flash and no real substance, suppose it doesnt matter now with how it turned out.
when I said Cotto was throwing arm puniches that was ment to indicate Cotto wasn't punching with any pop
Job Biscuit (Margarito was throwing with more pop and more conviction)!!!!
eh eh!!
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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Job Biscuit (cheers hitman I wasn't sure if anyone new the judges cards)!!
eh eh!!
i disagree, in my opinion he hit margarito with some of the hardest shots his thrown throughout his career, alot of welterweights would have folded under the power of some of those punches, its a testement to margaritos chin that he took them so well
Yes possibly but Margarito didn't look too red in the face after all them punches that landed from Cotto, and that would indicate Cotto wasn't putting too much pop on them punches....in the earlier rounds Cotto reminded me a little of Pretty boy with them flurries and get outta there tactics.....Margarito didn't give Cotto too much time to get the big punches in.....I might be wrong but thats what I sawQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Job Biscuit (I would have to go with the big pop ratio punches to light flurries)!!!!
eh eh!!!
i think that has alot to do with margaritos skin type more so than cottos punching power, some people bruise and swell up more so than others,Quote:
Originally Posted by OtleyYes possibly but Margarito didn't look too red in the face after all them punches that landed from Cotto, and that would indicate Cotto wasn't putting too much pop on them punches....in the earlier rounds Cotto reminded me a little of Pretty boy with them flurries and get outta there tactics.....Margarito didn't give Cotto too much time to get the big punches in.....I might be wrong but thats what I sawQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Job Biscuit (I would have to go with the big pop ratio punches to light flurries)!!!!
eh eh!!!
for me in the early rounds i saw cotto land a lot of good shots especially the big left at the end of either the 2nd or the 3rd i think were he went to step off to the side and fired it back arcoss and margarito walked pretty much right on it and he felt it as he started smiling to show it was a good shot
What the fuck is a job biscuit.
Right everyone ignore him until he explains himself.
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eh eh
i think he said early its meant to mean like a classic boxer vs puncher fight :-\
well if cotto wer to have got up after one knocked down then went to the 12th i know cotto would of laid it all on the line and won that last round and won a majority descision or possibly a split descision
GREAT FIGHT THO