Re: What would Oscar's answer be?
...because he's not trying to accomplish much in his "competition"
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No offence but how can a man who has fought Trinidad, Mayweather, Hopkins, Mosley, Pernell, Chavez, Quartey, Mayorga, Vargas, Gatti, Camacho and Gonzalez be afraid of fighting Margarito? We have seen 6'1 Paul Williams beat Tony recently and Oscar is quite tall at 5'11 for that weight but IMO has better boxing skills than Williams. Also I've seen people questioning Oscars chin (or so it seems). How? He has walked through peoples shots who hit a lot harder than anyone who Tony has faced and also probably hits as hard as Cintron who is the hardest puncher that Tony has faced. The difference is he is a lot better boxer than Cintron and would cause Tony a lot of trouble and I think beat him.
I don't understand why people hate Oscar. He has fought the best fighters of his era and is looking now like he is going to take on the man who has been beating all his fellow Mexicans albeit in divisions quite a bit lower than the one he has been fighting. It looks like a mismatch but if you could take Oscar from 1995 when he himself was fighting at lightweight and put Pacman from now into that era we wouldn't be arguing this. The thing is he has grown into a junior middle and is going to drain himself (probably) to fight at Welter. The Mexican public turned on him a bit when he beat Chavez twice who is the biggest name in Mexican Boxing so he probably wants to win their hearts back and sees this as the best way of doing so. Certainly the last thing that would win the hearts of the Mexicans back would be to beat up their new hero and the man who has just beaten a fierce Puerto Rican Rival.
So the answer has to be the one he has already said, That he doesn't want to fight another Mexican.
I don't think people hate De La Hoya and his legacy. Everyone here respects him but he's bad for boxing right now. He should've retired already and given the best fighters a chance to fight other fighters not fight him instead.
No one questions his past accomplishments, but they question what he is still doing here...
OK I understand where your coming from but why should he retire while he is still competitive?
Sorry for such a late reply RJJ! I think he should retire because, like I said before, the best fighters should be fighting other great fighters. People steer away from their regular path just to fight De La Hoya.
For example, Floyd should've been fighting a real welterweight but instead chose to fight De La Hoya. Hatton then got the calls to fight De La Hoya. Good thing he turned it down cause now he's fighting one of the best in his division in Malignaggi. After beating De La Hoya and Hatton, Floyd DEFINITELY should've looked to fight a welterweight but instead signed on to fight De La Hoya again.
Now Pacquiao is the leading candidate to fight De La Hoya next. He should be fighting one of the big name lightweights, Valero, or Soto. Instead of concentrating on his REAL competition, he's now sidetracked in the thought of fighting Oscar.
De La Hoya is an all-time great no doubt! But as it stands, De La Hoya at this point in time does not make an impact the way he used to in the boxing world aside from making money..
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I don't think people hate De La Hoya and his legacy. Everyone here respects him but he's bad for boxing right now. He should've retired already and given the best fighters a chance to fight other fighters not fight him instead.
No one questions his past accomplishments, but they question what he is still doing here...
OK I understand where your coming from but why should he retire while he is still competitive?
Sorry for such a late reply RJJ! I think he should retire because, like I said before, the best fighters should be fighting other great fighters. People steer away from their regular path just to fight De La Hoya.
For example, Floyd should've been fighting a real welterweight but instead chose to fight De La Hoya. Hatton then got the calls to fight De La Hoya. Good thing he turned it down cause now he's fighting one of the best in his division in Malignaggi. After beating De La Hoya and Hatton, Floyd DEFINITELY should've looked to fight a welterweight but instead signed on to fight De La Hoya again.
Now Pacquiao is the leading candidate to fight De La Hoya next. He should be fighting one of the big name lightweights, Valero, or Soto. Instead of concentrating on his REAL competition, he's now sidetracked in the thought of fighting Oscar.
De La Hoya is an all-time great no doubt! But as it stands, De La Hoya at this point in time does not make an impact the way he used to in the boxing world aside from making money..
AMEN... MONEY over BOXING INTEGRITY is now Oscars motto... I thought he wants to save boxing and bring back to where it belongs...
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Oscar makes ridiculously huge amounts of dough - compared with any other fighter - REGARDLESS of who is in the opposite corner.
He clearly wants to end with a "superfight" that is WINNABLE - hence Pac.
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The saddest thing is that Oscar gets hated on by mostly Mexicans, now I love MArgarito, but he has never done and probably will never do as much for Mexicans both inside or outside of the ring. As a fighter, business man, and philanthropist in general Oscar has represented Mexicans very well and he should get more respect than what most give him.
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it kinda makes sense though. Pac has been beating every mexican put in front of him and really oscar is the only mexican left. For oscars last fight he takes on the pacman and gets the chance to beat the guy who has been beating the other mexicans.
Can you imagine if pac drops and or beats oscar? that shiit would be huge!!! ;D
If oscar wins though it would make sense, he'll end the success pac has had over mexicans as his last goodbye fight. Oscar gotta stay off the canvas though cause there hasn't been a mexican pac didn't put on their ass. :D
You're right... that's a great angle. I'd be surprised if Oscar and his marketing machine didn't pick up on that and use it to hype the matchup.
And if by some miracle, Pac DID drop and/or beat De La Hoya... I'd be on a plane to the Phillipines the next day to help plan the homecoming parade.
:)
Be sure to PM me it it happens. I'll be waiting for you at the airport.;D
Re: What would Oscar's answer be?
I think Oscar, if he is in the same shape he was against Flord or Mayorga could quite posibly box Margo to a UD.
Antonio struggles against guys his size or bigger ( Santos, Williams) so DLH at a similiar size would have that going for him. Margo also oreys on fighters that are weak minded (Cintron) and ODLH has been in enough big fights that there is no problem with that.
I say again if Oscar is in the same shape that he was v Mayorga he could beat Margarito.
Re: What would Oscar's answer be?
"He's Mexican, and I don't want to fight another Mexican."
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I am still entertained by watching Oscar, I think he really does want to make exciting fights,
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I think it upset Oscar the way the Mexican fans turned against him after he beat JJC so he wont want to risk it again.
He wants to go out a hero to his people.