Re: Rule changes in boxing.
Yeah I don't like the replay idea... I wouldn't like the fight being played out and finishing, and then having to go over some tape to crown a winner...
I think it should definetly stay in the hands of the ref. As long as we are prepared for them to sometimes make mistakes, and accept that that is just boxing, then I think it would stay a more enjoyable sport..
But if we truely wanted boxing to return to Glory, I think having only one belt would do just that..... I mean, boxing needs to appeal to the general public as well, and they can't follow 3 or 4 champs.... One belt, one world champion in each weight division. Throw them ALL into the one pot and work your way to the top of that division by having to fight THE best....
It would make boxing so much more explosive....
But it's about diversifying these days, and I suppose for the actual fighters, it's a much better industry now with all the belts/organizations, and opportunity to have more money earning fights... How it is now is definetly good for the fighters, but it takes a bit away from boxing/sports fans..
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Thanks to all the banter back and forth. It is good to see both sides of these debates.
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Dizaster
Yeah I don't like the replay idea... I wouldn't like the fight being played out and finishing, and then having to go over some tape to crown a winner...
I think it should definetly stay in the hands of the ref. As long as we are prepared for them to sometimes make mistakes, and accept that that is just boxing, then I think it would stay a more enjoyable sport..
But if we truely wanted boxing to return to Glory, I think having only one belt would do just that..... I mean, boxing needs to appeal to the general public as well, and they can't follow 3 or 4 champs.... One belt, one world champion in each weight division. Throw them ALL into the one pot and work your way to the top of that division by having to fight THE best....
It would make boxing so much more explosive....
But it's about diversifying these days, and I suppose for the actual fighters, it's a much better industry now with all the belts/organizations, and opportunity to have more money earning fights... How it is now is definetly good for the fighters, but it takes a bit away from boxing/sports fans..
You make it sound as though every fight is full of contraversy and that is not the case but KillerSheep gave a perfect example of a fight in which the instant replay would have helped solve the situation and corrected the human error.
It's not easy to follow the sport and takes way too much time to follow all of the divisions and that is why I dont watch the fat azzes for example. I try to narrow down watching fights in divisions such as super featherweight thru super middleweight and even then I have a difficult time keeping track of the sport. I am accused of only knowing Cotto and Mora and that is ok by me ;D
Don't get me wrong, I have all of the classic fights of a great era of Ali, Holmes, Smokin Joe etc.. I stopped watching the fat boys during the Tyson era. :mad: I hated Tyson and I guess I still do. Have not payed attention to the fatboy division since he came in. Right now, the heavy weight division stinks ;D So I ain't missing anything anyway and would much rather watch something else. (Oooppps I was put to sleep by Vladimir Clitoris last month, don't know why I was watching :mad: )
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I can not ever see The politicos going to one Champion in each division,Just will not happen.Far to many affiliated slicksters getting fat on sanctioning fees and back room money in general.
The Replay scenario is so overdue its absents makes Boxing look stuck in the stone ages at times.There are crystal clear examples (Friday night most recently) in which a thought out managed system could have been utilized to ensure a just and fair call when a fighters future hangs in the balance......on nearly every descision made by the officials.The Commissions need to show half the balls the fighters do,a step in the right direction.
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Replays may come about, but I predict it will be fought. Controversial decisions= Lucrative re-matches!
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
I can not ever see The politicos going to one Champion in each division,Just will not happen.Far to many affiliated slicksters getting fat on sanctioning fees and back room money in general.
The Replay scenario is so overdue its absents makes Boxing look stuck in the stone ages at times.There are crystal clear examples (Friday night most recently) in which a thought out managed system could have been utilized to ensure a just and fair call when a fighters future hangs in the balance......on nearly every descision made by the officials.The Commissions need to show half the balls the fighters do,a step in the right direction.
Not saying one champ per division, one champ per alphabet org.
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
I can not ever see The politicos going to one Champion in each division,Just will not happen.Far to many affiliated slicksters getting fat on sanctioning fees and back room money in general.
The Replay scenario is so overdue its absents makes Boxing look stuck in the stone ages at times.There are crystal clear examples (Friday night most recently) in which a thought out managed system could have been utilized to ensure a just and fair call when a fighters future hangs in the balance......on nearly every descision made by the officials.The Commissions need to show half the balls the fighters do,a step in the right direction.
Not saying one champ per division, one champ per alphabet org.
I'm with ya but the genie is out of the bottle.That would call for universal reform.....maybe even The Gov getting invold? Might be like trying to herd (regulate) cats ;D.They are glutinous slobs feeding at the buffet and have already seen what they can make coming up with sub-sub Championships....."W.B.A Youth Championship" Wtf :bucktooth: How about we find a way to have only one Alphabet racket per division ;D
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I voted yes to all except ranking champs.
I assume you have to pay sanctioning fees to rank? Thats unlikely to change.
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Replays:No
I just don't see how they can be implemented efficiently without giving additional time for fighters to recover. I would say that they could be useful to determine how a cut was caused i.e. Headbutt or fist, but only post fight.
Other two: Yes
I actually think that the alphabet titles are now almost worthless in boxing to proper boxing fans and are used plainly as a marketing tool. For example, the Hatton v Lazcano fight was billed as a world title fight based on an IBO title and a Ring title. Lazcano only became ranked by Ring after the announcement of his fight with Hatton. Pure Politics.
I count a fight between 2 fighters on merit rather than belts on show.
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Danny_G
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Dizaster
Yeah I don't like the replay idea... I wouldn't like the fight being played out and finishing, and then having to go over some tape to crown a winner...
I think it should definetly stay in the hands of the ref. As long as we are prepared for them to sometimes make mistakes, and accept that that is just boxing, then I think it would stay a more enjoyable sport..
But if we truely wanted boxing to return to Glory, I think having only one belt would do just that..... I mean, boxing needs to appeal to the general public as well, and they can't follow 3 or 4 champs.... One belt, one world champion in each weight division. Throw them ALL into the one pot and work your way to the top of that division by having to fight THE best....
It would make boxing so much more explosive....
But it's about diversifying these days, and I suppose for the actual fighters, it's a much better industry now with all the belts/organizations, and opportunity to have more money earning fights... How it is now is definetly good for the fighters, but it takes a bit away from boxing/sports fans..
You make it sound as though every fight is full of contraversy and that is not the case but KillerSheep gave a perfect example of a fight in which the instant replay would have helped solve the situation and corrected the human error.
It's not easy to follow the sport and takes way too much time to follow all of the divisions and that is why I dont watch the fat azzes for example. I try to narrow down watching fights in divisions such as super featherweight thru super middleweight and even then I have a difficult time keeping track of the sport. I am accused of only knowing Cotto and Mora and that is ok by me ;D
Don't get me wrong, I have all of the classic fights of a great era of Ali, Holmes, Smokin Joe etc.. I stopped watching the fat boys during the Tyson era. :mad: I hated Tyson and I guess I still do. Have not payed attention to the fatboy division since he came in. Right now, the heavy weight division stinks ;D So I ain't missing anything anyway and would much rather watch something else. (Oooppps I was put to sleep by Vladimir Clitoris last month, don't know why I was watching :mad: )
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On the contrary. I don't feel there is enough contraversy in the sport of boxing to warrant an official repley either during or post fight to assess certin incidents that could have been interpreted wrong by a ref...
If there was some sort of result where the winner was up for debate, then an appeals tribunal could be set up where video replay is used to support cases for the fight being awarded to the other fighter..
But again I don't think there is enough contraversy (I know that's incorrect spelling but I can't find a way that it looks right) in the sport for such things..
Although it may also be that I havn't seen very many fights or events where such a replay system would have been of benifit..
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I prefer weigh-ins to be 8 hours before the fight rather than 28-32 hours.
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I prefer weigh-ins to be 8 hours before the fight rather than 28-32 hours.
I agree with that too, except most of the most popular fighters of today would have to move up a weight class.
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I voted yes to replay and no to the others.
Only one champ sounds good to us fans but fighters need something to fight over.
And the champ rankings could cause WWIII
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DAWGSWIN
Replays may come about, but I predict it will be fought. Controversial decisions= Lucrative re-matches!
Good point, actually.
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BoxingGorilla
I voted yes to replay and no to the others.
Only one champ sounds good to us fans but fighters need something to fight over.
And the champ rankings could cause WWIII
Good point on Fighting for something.I have lost confidence in the Alphabet soup boys long ago but I'd imagine that to many fighters, the achievement means a great deal.
"Gotta spread" Lol