Re: Breakdown of Mayweather-Wright
Yeah but complaining to the viewers and complaining to the fighters are
two totally different things.Sure I'd love it if Merchant Flipped his wig and
jumped on the apron yelling FIGHT YOU SISSY FOOKS!!!
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Well regardless i'd love to hear your thoughts on how PBF would beat Winky.
Since to be fair thats one of the hardest fights to predict.
I already know some definite flaws in winky and will watch tapes to see if i can find any in floyd.
some things i already notice without seeing them fight for a while (seen mayweather vs. gatti, but that is in no way comparable to a fight with wright)
it depends a lot on the fact if floyd decides to use his legs.
but if he doesnt i still think he can beat wright standing right in front of him.
wright is as quick to the punch as floy, but he isnt nearly as fast
wright is the bigger man but this wont be a phsical fight and i seriiously doubt wrights power
ok.. also wright tends to reach and push with his punches because of his stance.. and he mostly throw straight punches and a lot of times floyd leand back to avoid someone with short straight punches. so i can see floyd getting counter oppurtunities there
also floyd can move a lot better.. so even if they fight in front of each other, floyd will be able to turn and switch angles a lot better than wright
everything wright does works off of his jab and i just dont see him landing it that much here
i can see floyd breaking down wrights defense over the course of a couple of rounds
also if floyd moves around, turns right, makes wright follow him walkis him into punches and throws combos and flurries i dont see a damn thing wright can do about it.
All i can say is wow.Most if not all of that made complete sense.And I
fully agree with that.
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Good post Magnum. cool click.
Breakdown is simple. Â Wright is bigger and Mayweather is smaller.
Mayweather is going to have to win it by decision. Â Wright will have to muscle the Pretty Boy to get past his speed. Â It's not in Wright's nature to be aggressive, so Mayweather has that going for him.
The only way Floyd wins it, is not by a beat down, but by embarrasing Wright.
If this fight happens, I'm so rooting for Floyd. ;D Â I think Wright's defense has a serious fundamental flaw. Â Yeah I said it you boxing addicts! Â
wrights defense isnt as good as floyd for the most part because wright only blocks punches. he doesnt slip and avoid them with his feet like floyd does.
Yes. Â And Wright likes to con his opponents. Â He wants to make his opponent feel like they aren't doing any damage whatsoever. Â The Shane Mosley fight showed me how hurt Wright could get when with a fighter who keeps the pressure on. Â Wright dominated and Mosley lost, but keep that pressure up and Wright will crumble, because he has nothing else to fall back on. Â He can cover up, but he's basically taking the punches. Â Up against someone who can punch, punches on the arms can be hell. Â And that's not just it, Wright's open to clean head power punchers too, Mosley snuck some of those in too. Â Wright wants to make you think your not doing any damage, but it hurts him.
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Originally Posted by Magnum
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Well regardless i'd love to hear your thoughts on how PBF would beat Winky.
Since to be fair thats one of the hardest fights to predict.
I already know some definite flaws in winky and will watch tapes to see if i can find any in floyd.
some things i already notice without seeing them fight for a while (seen mayweather vs. gatti, but that is in no way comparable to a fight with wright)
it depends a lot on the fact if floyd decides to use his legs.
but if he doesnt i still think he can beat wright standing right in front of him.
wright is as quick to the punch as floy, but he isnt nearly as fast
wright is the bigger man but this wont be a phsical fight and i seriiously doubt wrights power
ok.. also wright tends to reach and push with his punches because of his stance.. and he mostly throw straight punches and a lot of times floyd leand back to avoid someone with short straight punches. so i can see floyd getting counter oppurtunities there
also floyd can move a lot better.. so even if they fight in front of each other, floyd will be able to turn and switch angles a lot better than wright
everything wright does works off of his jab and i just dont see him landing it that much here
i can see floyd breaking down wrights defense over the course of a couple of rounds
also if floyd moves around, turns right, makes wright follow him walkis him into punches and throws combos and flurries i dont see a damn thing wright can do about it.
All i can say is wow.Most if not all of that made complete sense.And I
fully agree with that.
thank you very much.
I dont get credit that often and never did when i said exactly what would happen in hopkins taylor. i got the winner wrong but that is a different story.
what didnt make since i can break it down for you more if you like. I just gotta know where to start so that you follow me.
ohh forgot to mention if floyd moves around and flurries that wright doesnt punch when you punch.
and watch some of wrights fighte right before mosley... he is a very good fighter and deserves a lot of credit, but he style is one dimensional and when you take him out of it he is beatable.
a lot of the same things karmazin did to ouma will work on him.
and i have always supported wright and liked him, but even vargas' movement and boxing ability gave him alot of trouble. vargas speed itself didnt give him trouble, but when he was hitting and moving he made wright look slower than he was. wright probably deserved the fight, but still.
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Yeah,Ouma just didnt look like himself.Still he lost and i'm over it.But dang
he took some hard shots from Jantuah and never budged.He's not the type
to make excuses so i suppose we'll never know what happened.
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Yeah,Ouma just didnt look like himself.Still he lost and i'm over it.But dang
he took some hard shots from Jantuah and never budged.He's not the type
to make excuses so i suppose we'll never know what happened.
just so you know earlier that day (I didnt pick Karmazin because I had only seen his fight with Holmes and that was a completely different fight) I said exactly how to beat Ouma and that I didnt think his chin was as good as everyone thought.
here that is
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,16395.0.html
here was my prediction on the hopkins-taylor fight
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,16529.0.html
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Karmazin had a great strategy coming in and stuck by it.I was very surprised
that i had never even heard of this guy.
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Karmazin had a great strategy coming in and stuck by it.I was very surprised
that i had never even heard of this guy.
her isnt that great of a fighter, he just took advantage of oumas 1 dimensional style
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The reason I say that Zab has the best shot against floyd is that i only can see straight shots getting in effectively on floyd. and zab might just be fast enough to do it, but zab never really opens up with hooks or uppercuts (not that they would work on mayweather anyway) until he is able to land the other two effectively.. so i think he would have to throw them just for the purpose for mayweather to be on the lookout for them and this would help his chances of being able to land the straight punches.
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Karmazin had a great strategy coming in and stuck by it.I was very surprised
that i had never even heard of this guy.
her isnt that great of a fighter, he just took advantage of oumas 1 dimensional style
He didnt look like an elite fighter but he showed decent speed and good pop.
your right about Ouma being one dimensional.Its prety obvious after that
fight.I wonder whats left for him now?
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Karmazin had a great strategy coming in and stuck by it.I was very surprised
that i had never even heard of this guy.
her isnt that great of a fighter, he just took advantage of oumas 1 dimensional style
He didnt look like an elite fighter but he showed decent speed and good pop.
your right about Ouma being one dimensional.Its prety obvious after thatÂ
fight.I wonder whats left for him now?
i dont know about karmazins power in other circumstances though. not saying it is drastically different, but he knew exactly when and where he could hit ouma because it happened over and over so he could afford to just load up.
look at wright too. look at there stances and their jab. if anyone was to fight the same fight against wright i think it gives him problems.. the only difference is that he will block a lot more of the punches, but i just dont see him mounting an effective offense agaisnt someone fighting that fight.
if only only did one small thing I think he could have won the fight.. If he would have moved side to side a little bit instead of just following him it would have
broke karmazins rythum
allowed ouma to jab and close the ditance to fight his normal fight.
also another thing about lfloyd vs wright.. floyd has a good lead right and lead hook. if his jab isnt working he can use these to help him and wright doesnt have anything to start off a combo with except a jab.
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The reason I say that Zab has the best shot against floyd is that i only can see straight shots getting in effectively on floyd. and zab might just be fast enough to do it, but zab never really opens up with hooks or uppercuts (not that they would work on mayweather anyway) until he is able to land the other two effectively.. so i think he would have to throw them just for the purpose for mayweather to be on the lookout for them and this would help his chances of being able to land the straight punches.
Judah does throw a wicked straight right hand.And Mayweather uses his shoulders to deflect alot of punches.Seems your right again there.
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I'd say PBF has a good shot.But there is a weight difference.A big
question is what weight would they meet at.Other then that i see Winky
making it his usual boring fight by not allowing to much activity,and stealing
rounds from PBF.I'd say that Winky has the better defense.And that if
floyd really turned it on he could use his speed to make his own openings.
Its really a toss up in my book.How willing floyd is to make the fight would
probably determine it.Slow fight goes to Winky.Faster paced fight goes
to PBF.
it would be at 154.
too be honest i dont see any way that wright could win this fight.
I want someone to put up a good arguement and then ill tell you why i think floyd will win. this isnt to insult the poster here i just wanted someone to break down their style punch for punch, little tendancies that they have, how they block punches, etc. what i mean is a lot of detail.
The official breakdown of the fight ( i hope it doesn't happen) Now their are some realistic reasons working for Mayweather although Wright is 3 inches taller their reach is even at 72 inches apiece. The second thing that works for Mayweather is he's a very good defensive fighter with a lot of speed. Wright although the naturally heavier fighter isn't neccessarily a Knock out threat.
Now on the other hand Wright is a Natural 154 he's fought their his whole career, and Mayweather started his career at 130; so like Hopkins Trinidad or Hopkins De La Hoya, or Wright Shane Mosley it's a legit weight fighter verses a blown up fighter in weight with a big ego. Also like Mayorga Dela Hoya Trinidad Shane Mosley their all looking at moving back down because they'v passed their maximum boxing weight. 130 to 154 is a 5 division 25 pound difference. Mayweather is jumping 15 pounds from his current division. Roy, De la Hoya, Mosley all lost some speed and all thought they were power punchers after they put on so much weight. Winky we'll have a similar game plan to his mosley fights (because he's fight a Shane with less power and a better defense). Winky has been their before as Wright you have two options either make Mayweather come to you and catch him with a few counters to let him no he's in a different weight class or smother him similar to the Hatton Kosta fight. Winky is an intelligent fighter and he know's how to adjust. We just saw him demolish Trinidad off of intellingence and instinct, while Mayweather beat Gatti of of Natural Talent Like speed and Defense.
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hey im a contender now!!!
Re: Breakdown of Mayweather-Wright
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Originally Posted by Magnum
The reason I say that Zab has the best shot against floyd is that i only can see straight shots getting in effectively on floyd. and zab might just be fast enough to do it, but zab never really opens up with hooks or uppercuts (not that they would work on mayweather anyway) until he is able to land the other two effectively.. so i think he would have to throw them just for the purpose for mayweather to be on the lookout for them and this would help his chances of being able to land the straight punches.
Judah does throw a wicked straight right hand.And Mayweather uses his shoulders to deflect alot of punches.Seems your right again there.
you mean straight left hand.
