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I was really impressed with Kessler when I watched him fight Calzaghe. I remember agreeing completely with Manny when he praised Kessler even in defeat. Which is why I was surprised when Kessler pulled out of the Miranda fight, I thought he'd destroy Miranda. I can't avoid thinking that possibly the pulling out of that fight is indicative of what his trainers (or himself) really think of him. On the other hand, I understand the need for a tune-up fight, but two tune-ups? That I don't understand. Kessler previously dominated Andrade and he was on the world stage when he fought Calzaghe, why take a step back?
Also, note that Haussler only has seven KO's in his 29 wins (KO% = 21.1%). That shows me that Kessler currently doesn't want to fight anyone with a big punch. Again, this slightly baffles me because of his the people he has previously fought and beat, but who knows maybe losing to Joe took some of his heart.
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I like Kessler and still think he gave Calzaghe a good test. Hopefully he can take on some of the better 168 fighters again
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I was really impressed with Kessler when I watched him fight Calzaghe. I remember agreeing completely with Manny when he praised Kessler even in defeat. Which is why I was surprised when Kessler pulled out of the Miranda fight, I thought he'd destroy Miranda. I can't avoid thinking that possibly the pulling out of that fight is indicative of what his trainers (or himself) really think of him. On the other hand, I understand the need for a tune-up fight, but two tune-ups? That I don't understand. Kessler previously dominated Andrade and he was on the world stage when he fought Calzaghe, why take a step back?
Also, note that Haussler only has seven KO's in his 29 wins (KO% = 21.1%). That shows me that Kessler currently doesn't want to fight anyone with a big punch. Again, this slightly baffles me because of his the people he has previously fought and beat, but who knows maybe losing to Joe took some of his heart.
Kessler has to fight Haussler,he is his mandatory,even team palle says it is a shit fight
Palle: This is a purse bid I did not want to win
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I like Kess,as a fighter,so I hope he was just slumming for the cameras in that "training video"
1 punch at a time,nothing but jabs,etc
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I was really impressed with Kessler when I watched him fight Calzaghe. I remember agreeing completely with Manny when he praised Kessler even in defeat. Which is why I was surprised when Kessler pulled out of the Miranda fight, I thought he'd destroy Miranda. I can't avoid thinking that possibly the pulling out of that fight is indicative of what his trainers (or himself) really think of him. On the other hand, I understand the need for a tune-up fight, but two tune-ups? That I don't understand. Kessler previously dominated Andrade and he was on the world stage when he fought Calzaghe, why take a step back? Furthermore, look at Arthur Abraham who after beat Miranda is fighting a rough mandatory with Marquez. Fair enough. But, there is already talk of him meeting Winkie Wright in the beginning of the year and Pavlik in the Spring.
Also, note that Haussler only has seven KO's in his 29 wins (KO% = 21.1%). That shows me that Kessler currently doesn't want to fight anyone with a big punch. Again, this slightly baffles me because of his the people he has previously fought and beat, but who knows maybe losing to Joe took some of his heart.
Kessler has to fight Haussler,he is his mandatory,even team palle says it is a shit fight
Palle: This is a purse bid I did not want to win
Gotcha.
But remember Chad Dawson was recently faced with a similar situation. Chad Dawson's mandatory was Adrian Diaconu, but rather than fight Diaconu for the strap, he decided to relinquish the strap in order to gain recognition from a fight with a bigger name opponent, Antonio Tarver. In that scenario, arguably Dawson was ducking Diaconu to fight someone with less pop, but the point still stands: the utility of a belt is that it gets you champion status and big fights. Tell me I'm wrong, but if you can already land the big fights why settle for a BS mandatory fight unless it is a tune-up (see Pavlik's destruction of Gary Lockett)?
Another reason to doubt Kessler's current status is his inactivity. Why has Kessler only fought twice (both European club fighters) since his Calzaghe defeat a year ago? Compare his activity and level-of-opposition to another of Calzaghe's victims: Peter Manfredo. Since being destroyed by Calzaghe (six months before the Calzaghe v. Kessler fight), Manfredo has fought 6x, including a losing bout with Jeff Lacy, which was very close, and his next fight is against Sakio Bika. I'm not heaping praise on Manfredo, and I think Bika will maul him, but the inactivity of Kessler may reflect his confidence and motivation.
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jangeorg
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Rantcatrat
I was really impressed with Kessler when I watched him fight Calzaghe. I remember agreeing completely with Manny when he praised Kessler even in defeat. Which is why I was surprised when Kessler pulled out of the Miranda fight, I thought he'd destroy Miranda. I can't avoid thinking that possibly the pulling out of that fight is indicative of what his trainers (or himself) really think of him. On the other hand, I understand the need for a tune-up fight, but two tune-ups? That I don't understand. Kessler previously dominated Andrade and he was on the world stage when he fought Calzaghe, why take a step back? Furthermore, look at Arthur Abraham who after beat Miranda is fighting a rough mandatory with Marquez. Fair enough. But, there is already talk of him meeting Winkie Wright in the beginning of the year and Pavlik in the Spring.
Also, note that Haussler only has seven KO's in his 29 wins (KO% = 21.1%). That shows me that Kessler currently doesn't want to fight anyone with a big punch. Again, this slightly baffles me because of his the people he has previously fought and beat, but who knows maybe losing to Joe took some of his heart.
Kessler has to fight Haussler,he is his mandatory,even team palle says it is a shit fight
Palle: This is a purse bid I did not want to win
Gotcha.
But remember Chad Dawson was recently faced with a similar situation. Chad Dawson's mandatory was Adrian Diaconu, but rather than fight Diaconu for the strap, he decided to relinquish the strap in order to gain recognition from a fight with a bigger name opponent, Antonio Tarver. In that scenario, arguably Dawson was ducking Diaconu to fight someone with less pop, but the point still stands: the utility of a belt is that it gets you champion status and big fights. Tell me I'm wrong, but if you can already land the big fights why settle for a BS mandatory fight unless it is a tune-up (see Pavlik's destruction of Gary Lockett)?
Another reason to doubt Kessler's current status is his inactivity. Why has Kessler only fought twice (both European club fighters) since his Calzaghe defeat a year ago? Compare his activity and level-of-opposition to another of Calzaghe's victims: Peter Manfredo. Since being destroyed by Calzaghe (six months before the Calzaghe v. Kessler fight), Manfredo has fought 6x, including a losing bout with Jeff Lacy, which was very close, and his next fight is against Sakio Bika. I'm not heaping praise on Manfredo, and I think Bika will maul him, but the inactivity of Kessler may reflect his confidence and motivation.
Kessler was injured after Calzaghe fight,so therefore his inactivity
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jangeorg
Gotcha.
But remember Chad Dawson was recently faced with a similar situation. Chad Dawson's mandatory was Adrian Diaconu, but rather than fight Diaconu for the strap, he decided to relinquish the strap in order to gain recognition from a fight with a bigger name opponent, Antonio Tarver. In that scenario, arguably Dawson was ducking Diaconu to fight someone with less pop, but the point still stands: the utility of a belt is that it gets you champion status and big fights. Tell me I'm wrong, but if you can already land the big fights why settle for a BS mandatory fight unless it is a tune-up (see Pavlik's destruction of Gary Lockett)?
Another reason to doubt Kessler's current status is his inactivity. Why has Kessler only fought twice (both European club fighters) since his Calzaghe defeat a year ago? Compare his activity and level-of-opposition to another of Calzaghe's victims: Peter Manfredo. Since being destroyed by Calzaghe (six months before the Calzaghe v. Kessler fight), Manfredo has fought 6x, including a losing bout with Jeff Lacy, which was very close, and his next fight is against Sakio Bika. I'm not heaping praise on Manfredo, and I think Bika will maul him, but the inactivity of Kessler may reflect his confidence and motivation.
Kessler was injured after Calzaghe fight,so therefore his inactivity
Considering his choices of opponents and his inactivty, you are not a little concerned with Kessler? I understand the injury caused his inactivity, but still...
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Rantcatrat
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jangeorg
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Rantcatrat
Gotcha.
But remember Chad Dawson was recently faced with a similar situation. Chad Dawson's mandatory was Adrian Diaconu, but rather than fight Diaconu for the strap, he decided to relinquish the strap in order to gain recognition from a fight with a bigger name opponent, Antonio Tarver. In that scenario, arguably Dawson was ducking Diaconu to fight someone with less pop, but the point still stands: the utility of a belt is that it gets you champion status and big fights. Tell me I'm wrong, but if you can already land the big fights why settle for a BS mandatory fight unless it is a tune-up (see Pavlik's destruction of Gary Lockett)?
Another reason to doubt Kessler's current status is his inactivity. Why has Kessler only fought twice (both European club fighters) since his Calzaghe defeat a year ago? Compare his activity and level-of-opposition to another of Calzaghe's victims: Peter Manfredo. Since being destroyed by Calzaghe (six months before the Calzaghe v. Kessler fight), Manfredo has fought 6x, including a losing bout with Jeff Lacy, which was very close, and his next fight is against Sakio Bika. I'm not heaping praise on Manfredo, and I think Bika will maul him, but the inactivity of Kessler may reflect his confidence and motivation.
Kessler was injured after Calzaghe fight,so therefore his inactivity
Considering his choices of opponents and his inactivty, you are not a little concerned with Kessler? I understand the injury caused his inactivity, but still...
I also hope his next fight will be against a big name,no more shit-fight for Kessler ;D
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If he keeps dropping that jab after throwing it, Kessler's gonna get flattened soon.
Maybe not Haussler, but a Froch or Bute would time that perfect.
your right about that if anything kessler DO NOT get in the ring with pavlik i repeat DO NOT get in the ring with PAVLIK.
do you think so,Ross Thompson has fought Palvik and he said Kessler is a lot faster than Palvik and he will KO him if they ever foght
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If he keeps dropping that jab after throwing it, Kessler's gonna get flattened soon.
Maybe not Haussler, but a Froch or Bute would time that perfect.
your right about that if anything kessler DO NOT get in the ring with pavlik i repeat DO NOT get in the ring with PAVLIK.
do you think so,Ross Thompson has fought Palvik and he said Kessler is a lot faster than Palvik and he will KO him if they ever foght
Mr. Thompson is his sparring partner. Might he have a slight bias?
Pavlik chose to fight Bernard Hopkins - Kessler chose not to fight Miranda and fight Satison and then Haussler. Nuff Said.
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Yea Pavlik chose to fight Bernard Hokpins the guy that alot of people thought beat Calzaghe the man he schooled Kessler. Not only that he is jumping up 15 pounds to do so i respect that and i hope the best for Pavlik and i think he win it. To me Kessler should not be fighting bums but thats his chose see what he does in the future but for now Pavlik is stepping it up and i respect that alot more and hope he does well. Also would like to see Pavlik vs Calzaghe would be a great fight as well not sure it will happen.
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Yea Pavlik chose to fight Bernard Hokpins the guy that alot of people thought beat Calzaghe the man he schooled Kessler. Not only that he is jumping up 15 pounds to do so i respect that and i hope the best for Pavlik and i think he win it. To me Kessler should not be fighting bums but thats his chose see what he does in the future but for now Pavlik is stepping it up and i respect that alot more and hope he does well. Also would like to see Pavlik vs Calzaghe would be a great fight as well not sure it will happen.
Agreed. Furthermore, I don't think Ring Magazine will keep Kessler at # 1 for much longer if he fights another nobody. Don't get me wrong, I think Kessler has or had loads of potential. I think he is a very good boxer. I am just dismayed by the direction of his career. I expect him to blow out Haussler and set up a fight with a big-time fighter. Kessler should fight one of the three following fighters if they win in the coming months: Bute, Taylor, or Froch. Anything less would be a big-time disappointment.
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jangeorg
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your right about that if anything kessler DO NOT get in the ring with pavlik i repeat DO NOT get in the ring with PAVLIK.
do you think so,Ross Thompson has fought Palvik and he said Kessler is a lot faster than Palvik and he will KO him if they ever foght
Mr. Thompson is his sparring partner. Might he have a slight bias?
Pavlik chose to fight Bernard Hopkins - Kessler chose not to fight Miranda and fight Satison and then Haussler. Nuff Said.
I know,but still,he knows what he is talking about
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jangeorg
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Rantcatrat
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jangeorg
do you think so,Ross Thompson has fought Palvik and he said Kessler is a lot faster than Palvik and he will KO him if they ever foght
Mr. Thompson is his sparring partner. Might he have a slight bias?
Pavlik chose to fight Bernard Hopkins - Kessler chose not to fight Miranda and fight Satison and then Haussler. Nuff Said.
I know,but still,he knows what he is talking about
You mean the Thompson who is under the employment of Kessler and who also fought Pavlik back in 2004 when Pavlik was still an 8 round fighter?
Yeah that's the ticket!!;D
So If Pavlik Beats Hopkins, and Hopkins says Pavlik could beat Calzaghe, does that mean he could beat Kessler also by default? Now do you see what kind of weight those type of statements carry?
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Kessler is good looking, fit and strong - and a great guy. Is he a great boxer? NOPE.
He is far from it. A few wins over a ancient Beyer and a cowardly Mundine don't make you elite. So he went the full 12 with Joe - who doesn't? Ashir, Lacy, Hopkins, Bika.....
...infact Bika gave him a much harder fight than Kessler whom apart from one round was crap. Hardly fight of the year. Infact i dont know of any show-reel fights on his resume apart from the ko of Beyer and even he seemed shocked by it himself.
