Re: Rumour Has It Andre Berto Moving Down To 140 ?
Well if he can make 140 I'd say its a smart move. I wish Zab would move down to 140 as well.
As I see it Berto hasn't shown me anything that makes me think he's ready for the big welters like Williams, Margarito and Cotto.
I don't actually see all the potential in him that some others see.
But at 140 he could certainly be dominant. He'd be huge at the weight and really strong, which matched with his hand speed would make him the best fighter in that division imo.
I actually think 140 could be a decent division if the fighters who belonged there actually fought there.
Berto is I understand only 5 ft 6 so 140 SHOULD be his natural weight class.
Zab Judah should definitely be at 140, as should Steve Forbes.
If the three of them moved down it would certainly liven up the 140 weight class and to be honest wouldn't really weaken the 147 class as none of them are top tier material imo anyway.
Re: Rumour Has It Andre Berto Moving Down To 140 ?
I saw this story on this article yesterday Andre Berto To Move To 140? Against Paulie Malignaggi? - Boxing News
As his promoter says, he makes 147 too easily. Given both that and his height then imo he should be fighting at 140. Isn't the whole point of boxing being able to get down to the lowest possible weight in order to maximise your attributes?
Berto should move to 140 and dominate. He always has the option to move back up...
Re: Rumour Has It Andre Berto Moving Down To 140 ?
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I can't post the link but rumour has it Andre Berto is moving down to 140, to possibly get a fight with Paulie.
Firstly how the hell is Berto gonna get down to 140 ? when he has fought as high as a Jr Middleweight ? and secondly why does he want move down to 140 anyway ?
Maybe it was Judah who was suppose to go back to 140 and you got the name mixed up.
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ICB
I can't post the link but rumour has it Andre Berto is moving down to 140, to possibly get a fight with Paulie.
Firstly how the hell is Berto gonna get down to 140 ? when he has fought as high as a Jr Middleweight ? and secondly why does he want move down to 140 anyway ?
Maybe it was Judah who was suppose to go back to 140 and you got the name mixed up.
No it wasn't its for certain Andre Berto i just can't post the link.
Re: Rumour Has It Andre Berto Moving Down To 140 ?
Ive never, ever heard of a champion in a division stacked with good/great fighters move DOWN in weight to a poor division that has one real name.
Unless the $$ of a potential Hatton bout has blinded him i say hes running.
Re: Rumour Has It Andre Berto Moving Down To 140 ?
It's probably not even his choice, I think his manager or promoter realizes he won't be able to beat Margarito for awhile, and wants to create some hype by making him the champion of a division, that being I think they should have more faith in him, he will do very well in the WW division.
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It's probably not even his choice, I think his manager or promoter realizes he won't be able to beat Margarito for awhile, and wants to create some hype by making him the champion of a division, that being I think they should have more faith in him, he will do very well in the WW division.
I'm sure you know more about his ability and potential than his promoters and trainers. You're a boxing genius. Berto has still yet to beat a single good quality true WW. He's been very carefully matched. He has the potential to be a special fighter, but if he can make 140, by all means he should do it. There is no way he's going to be the top man at WW in the next two years, but he might be able to be the top man at 140 in that time frame.
If Berto gets in with Clottey, Cotto, Margo, or even Cintron, the step up in class is too much to expect him to overcome. His best win was against a B-level blown up LWW. Forbes was a perfect step up for him to take on the top LWWs. At WW the two stepping stone fights for him would be Collazo or Quintana. If he drops down, he could fight Tim Bradley, then the Hatton/Paulie winner. I would give him a good chance in those fights, a better chance than I would give him over any of the top full sized WW's.
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I for one think he can take out Paul Williams right now
Williams is the LAST guy in that division I could see Berto beating. He's only like 5'6" or 5'7" with short arms; I think Williams beats him decisively. On the other hand, I think with a little more seasoning he could have a solid chance against Cotto, but Williams and Margarito are too big for him. If Berto can actually make 140, it wouldn't be a bad move for the right fights. Problem is, there aren't many big money guys at 140 besides Hatton. If Paulie beats Hatton, that fight could generate a nice pay day for him and would be an easy fight to make since DiBella promotes both of them. Money wise, his best bet is to stay at 147, but they need to match him carefully because he has some physical limitations for that division (height and short arms).
Re: Rumour Has It Andre Berto Moving Down To 140 ?
I think Berto needs to stay right where he is. He's in the most talent-laden division in boxing, there's no reason for him to leave.
If Paulie really wants to fight him, then have Paulie come up to 147.