Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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Thoughts ?
I think Lopez should make a legacy of his own, his polished style combined with the power he has is unlike anything I've ever seen. I'm trying to not get to high on him yet, but he has definately impressed.
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
Lopez is impressive but it is still too early, but he has the potential to achieve greatness! At this point though I think both Vasquez & Marquez would defeat him. I seeing him stopping Caballero though...
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
Not so much. I seriously hope he retires.
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Wow this post is old i remember it and thinking it was kinda early to call. I never thought Lopez would be great but i never expected him to be ended by the guy who did it. I thought it would be Gamboa but o well he went out on his shield and had a pretty good run just not a atg one.
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I guess it didn't pan out like ICB thought. A little less than 5 years later and it looks like Juanma is finished on the world stage.
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But I guess they have one thing in common: both washed up at 30.
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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I know its too early boys but im willing to put myself on the line here, and make that prediction. I really think Lopez will be special and so will Abner Mares.
Hey next time you make predictions for all time greats just stick with the Rican fighters not the mexicans lol.
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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ICB
I know its too early boys but im willing to put myself on the line here, and make that prediction. I really think Lopez will be special and so will Abner Mares.
Hey next time you make predictions for all time greats just stick with the Rican fighters not the mexicans lol.
Mann lmmfao.
U know what though bruh, as odd as it sounds, I was never a fan of juanma until the second salido fight. Even in defeat, he showed some qualities that a lot of fighters dont have. Willingness to go balls out.
He tried boxing in the beginning but once he realized that boxing shit wasnt going to work, he said fuck this shit and resorted back to what he knew best which was brawling . It takes a lot of courage to do what he did because thats the same reason why he lost the first fight. That was gangster and juanma turned me into fan that night. I like garcia but I wanted to see juanma beat him so badly.. I think tht was the only time when I backed a rican fighter over a Mexican lol.
Juanma has much bigger cojones than cotto thats for dam sure. Imagine how he would reacted under such adversity. He probably would hve looked for the softest part of the canvas to get on bended knees or got on his bike like many times before.
Juanma is a fighter through and through
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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FinitoElDinamita
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ICB
I know its too early boys but im willing to put myself on the line here, and make that prediction. I really think Lopez will be special and so will Abner Mares.
Hey next time you make predictions for all time greats just stick with the Rican fighters not the mexicans lol.
Mann lmmfao.
U know what though bruh, as odd as it sounds, I was never a fan of juanma until the second salido fight. Even in defeat, he showed some qualities that a lot of fighters dont have. Willingness to go balls out.
He tried boxing in the beginning but once he realized that boxing shit wasnt going to work, he said fuck this shit and resorted back to what he knew best which was brawling . It takes a lot of courage to do what he did because thats the same reason why he lost the first fight. That was gangster and juanma turned me into fan that night. I like garcia but I wanted to see juanma beat him so badly.. I think tht was the only time when I backed a rican fighter over a Mexican lol.
Juanma has much bigger cojones than cotto thats for dam sure. Imagine how he would reacted under such adversity. He probably would hve looked for the softest part of the canvas to get on bended knees or got on his bike like many times before.
Juanma is a fighter through and through
Cotto only "quit" after getting his with bricks (literally) for 11 rounds, Angulo quit just cause of a swollen eye from legal punches and no help of Plaster, bitch all you want Finito and try slamming Cotto for the first Margacheato false of a fight, but there's a reason why Margarito's bitch ass got schooled in a rematch, and never won a significant fight since being exposed and now is gonna try promoting fights in a garage somewhere in Mexico probably while working his taco truck, Cotto took his illegal beating, and losses from Pacquiao and still stepped back up and fought better opposition in Mayweather and Trout, while Margarito who claimed his eye wasn't an issue decided to turn in his Home Depot card and call it a career, must suck that your "friend" and hero is just a big joke in the sport
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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ElTerribleMorales
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FinitoElDinamita
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outspoken
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ICB
I know its too early boys but im willing to put myself on the line here, and make that prediction. I really think Lopez will be special and so will Abner Mares.
Hey next time you make predictions for all time greats just stick with the Rican fighters not the mexicans lol.
Mann lmmfao.
U know what though bruh, as odd as it sounds, I was never a fan of juanma until the second salido fight. Even in defeat, he showed some qualities that a lot of fighters dont have. Willingness to go balls out.
He tried boxing in the beginning but once he realized that boxing shit wasnt going to work, he said fuck this shit and resorted back to what he knew best which was brawling . It takes a lot of courage to do what he did because thats the same reason why he lost the first fight. That was gangster and juanma turned me into fan that night. I like garcia but I wanted to see juanma beat him so badly.. I think tht was the only time when I backed a rican fighter over a Mexican lol.
Juanma has much bigger cojones than cotto thats for dam sure. Imagine how he would reacted under such adversity. He probably would hve looked for the softest part of the canvas to get on bended knees or got on his bike like many times before.
Juanma is a fighter through and through
Cotto only "quit" after getting his with bricks (literally) for 11 rounds, Angulo quit just cause of a swollen eye from legal punches and no help of Plaster, bitch all you want Finito and try slamming Cotto for the first Margacheato false of a fight, but there's a reason why Margarito's bitch ass got schooled in a rematch, and never won a significant fight since being exposed and now is gonna try promoting fights in a garage somewhere in Mexico probably while working his taco truck, Cotto took his illegal beating, and losses from Pacquiao and still stepped back up and fought better opposition in Mayweather and Trout, while Margarito who claimed his eye wasn't an issue decided to turn in his Home Depot card and call it a career, must suck that your "friend" and hero is just a big joke in the sport
:vd: It's hilarious the things people lie to themselves about to avoid accepting the cold, hard truth.
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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Violent Demise
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ElTerribleMorales
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FinitoElDinamita
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outspoken
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ICB
I know its too early boys but im willing to put myself on the line here, and make that prediction. I really think Lopez will be special and so will Abner Mares.
Hey next time you make predictions for all time greats just stick with the Rican fighters not the mexicans lol.
Mann lmmfao.
U know what though bruh, as odd as it sounds, I was never a fan of juanma until the second salido fight. Even in defeat, he showed some qualities that a lot of fighters dont have. Willingness to go balls out.
He tried boxing in the beginning but once he realized that boxing shit wasnt going to work, he said fuck this shit and resorted back to what he knew best which was brawling . It takes a lot of courage to do what he did because thats the same reason why he lost the first fight. That was gangster and juanma turned me into fan that night. I like garcia but I wanted to see juanma beat him so badly.. I think tht was the only time when I backed a rican fighter over a Mexican lol.
Juanma has much bigger cojones than cotto thats for dam sure. Imagine how he would reacted under such adversity. He probably would hve looked for the softest part of the canvas to get on bended knees or got on his bike like many times before.
Juanma is a fighter through and through
Cotto only "quit" after getting his with bricks (literally) for 11 rounds, Angulo quit just cause of a swollen eye from legal punches and no help of Plaster, bitch all you want Finito and try slamming Cotto for the first Margacheato false of a fight, but there's a reason why Margarito's bitch ass got schooled in a rematch, and never won a significant fight since being exposed and now is gonna try promoting fights in a garage somewhere in Mexico probably while working his taco truck, Cotto took his illegal beating, and losses from Pacquiao and still stepped back up and fought better opposition in Mayweather and Trout, while Margarito who claimed his eye wasn't an issue decided to turn in his Home Depot card and call it a career, must suck that your "friend" and hero is just a big joke in the sport
:vd: It's hilarious the things people lie to themselves about to avoid accepting the cold, hard truth.
funny thing is I say the same thing to myself every time you try defending the piece of shit and fooling yourself that he ever legit accomplished anything without wraps
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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ICB your enthusiasm and train of thought which tries to pin an old fighter to a new makes me smile. :)
Because despite them both having solid power JuanMa still has not even done one fourth of what Wilfredo did in his career.
But again I like your enthusiasm for trying to pin this down.
If it's one thing that just does my head in is when young fighters are compared to all time greats. Especially ones that are just starting off.
Ramon Gonzalez - Alexis
JuanMa - Gomez
Bojado - JCC
Margarito - Bennie
Berto - Some people say RJJ others say PBF
Pascal - RJJ
Pavlik - Monzon
The list is endless... But to each it's own. If you think he's the next "Bazooka" then that's what you think.
I just think people are quick to jump on a fighter and label them the next "_____________" Insert name.
When the young fighters haven't really been tested all around.
Well it looks like Mick was on the money here as Juama was tested and failed.
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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ElTerribleMorales
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FinitoElDinamita
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ICB
I know its too early boys but im willing to put myself on the line here, and make that prediction. I really think Lopez will be special and so will Abner Mares.
Hey next time you make predictions for all time greats just stick with the Rican fighters not the mexicans lol.
Mann lmmfao.
U know what though bruh, as odd as it sounds, I was never a fan of juanma until the second salido fight. Even in defeat, he showed some qualities that a lot of fighters dont have. Willingness to go balls out.
He tried boxing in the beginning but once he realized that boxing shit wasnt going to work, he said fuck this shit and resorted back to what he knew best which was brawling . It takes a lot of courage to do what he did because thats the same reason why he lost the first fight. That was gangster and juanma turned me into fan that night. I like garcia but I wanted to see juanma beat him so badly.. I think tht was the only time when I backed a rican fighter over a Mexican lol.
Juanma has much bigger cojones than cotto thats for dam sure. Imagine how he would reacted under such adversity. He probably would hve looked for the softest part of the canvas to get on bended knees or got on his bike like many times before.
Juanma is a fighter through and through
Cotto only "quit" after getting his with bricks (literally) for 11 rounds, Angulo quit just cause of a swollen eye from legal punches and no help of Plaster, bitch all you want Finito and try slamming Cotto for the first Margacheato false of a fight, but there's a reason why Margarito's bitch ass got schooled in a rematch, and never won a significant fight since being exposed and now is gonna try promoting fights in a garage somewhere in Mexico probably while working his taco truck, Cotto took his illegal beating, and losses from Pacquiao and still stepped back up and fought better opposition in Mayweather and Trout, while Margarito who claimed his eye wasn't an issue decided to turn in his Home Depot card and call it a career, must suck that your "friend" and hero is just a big joke in the sport
Here we go again with your crying business. I dont even want to respond to your plaster accusation because it holds no weight but let me just break it down for you.
Take 3 punches to give one is Margarito's game and he's always fought that way. That style worked for him only because he was blessed with a granite chin. Simply put, Cotto lost because he couldnt take as much as he dished out and his stamina issue was a big part of it.
Margarito ate alot of punches in the beginning but he was able to absorb them while closing the gap like he always does.. The deciding factor in that bout was Margarito's punch resistance and perseverance. As a knowledgable boxing guy, how can you not see this?
To me, it just seems like you are trying to justify your fighter's loss by reaching for something that doesn't exist but I can understand because Ive been there myself.
And let's not even get into the rematch man. Margarito lost that fight because he had a major handicap and the Boxing politics were against him. The referee and the doctor basically took turns carrying Cotto on their backs.
Just admit that Margarito has Cotto's number.. A healthy Margarito would've beaten Cotto 9/10..
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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FinitoElDinamita
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ElTerribleMorales
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FinitoElDinamita
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outspoken
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ICB
I know its too early boys but im willing to put myself on the line here, and make that prediction. I really think Lopez will be special and so will Abner Mares.
Hey next time you make predictions for all time greats just stick with the Rican fighters not the mexicans lol.
Mann lmmfao.
U know what though bruh, as odd as it sounds, I was never a fan of juanma until the second salido fight. Even in defeat, he showed some qualities that a lot of fighters dont have. Willingness to go balls out.
He tried boxing in the beginning but once he realized that boxing shit wasnt going to work, he said fuck this shit and resorted back to what he knew best which was brawling . It takes a lot of courage to do what he did because thats the same reason why he lost the first fight. That was gangster and juanma turned me into fan that night. I like garcia but I wanted to see juanma beat him so badly.. I think tht was the only time when I backed a rican fighter over a Mexican lol.
Juanma has much bigger cojones than cotto thats for dam sure. Imagine how he would reacted under such adversity. He probably would hve looked for the softest part of the canvas to get on bended knees or got on his bike like many times before.
Juanma is a fighter through and through
Cotto only "quit" after getting his with bricks (literally) for 11 rounds, Angulo quit just cause of a swollen eye from legal punches and no help of Plaster, bitch all you want Finito and try slamming Cotto for the first Margacheato false of a fight, but there's a reason why Margarito's bitch ass got schooled in a rematch, and never won a significant fight since being exposed and now is gonna try promoting fights in a garage somewhere in Mexico probably while working his taco truck, Cotto took his illegal beating, and losses from Pacquiao and still stepped back up and fought better opposition in Mayweather and Trout, while Margarito who claimed his eye wasn't an issue decided to turn in his Home Depot card and call it a career, must suck that your "friend" and hero is just a big joke in the sport
Here we go again with your crying business. I dont even want to respond to your plaster accusation because it holds no weight but let me just break it down for you.
Take 3 punches to give one is Margarito's game and he's always fought that way. That style worked for him only because he was blessed with a granite chin. Simply put, Cotto lost because he couldnt take as much as he dished out and his stamina issue was a big part of it.
Margarito ate alot of punches in the beginning but he was able to absorb them while closing the gap like he always does.. The deciding factor in that bout was Margarito's punch resistance and perseverance. As a knowledgable boxing guy, how can you not see this?
To me, it just seems like you are trying to justify your fighter's loss by reaching for something that doesn't exist but I can understand because Ive been there myself.
And let's not even get into the rematch man. Margarito lost that fight because he had a major handicap and the Boxing politics were against him. The referee and the doctor basically took turns carrying Cotto on their backs.
Just admit that Margarito has Cotto's number.. A healthy Margarito would've beaten Cotto 9/10..
Why am I going to admit what isn't true? The only number Margarito has is Home Depot and he has it on speed dial, Cotto was the superior boxer and that's why he schooled the worm that is Margacheato, it's no coincidence that he looked like shit even in his winning effort against a bum after being exposed as a fraud and a cheat, Giovanni Segura was mixed up in the same mess cause they shared the same trainer, difference is Segura went on to have big wins and come back from losses, Margarito......not so much
Re: Is Juan Manuel Lopez The Next Wilfredo Gomez ?
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ElTerribleMorales
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FinitoElDinamita
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ElTerribleMorales
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FinitoElDinamita
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outspoken
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ICB
I know its too early boys but im willing to put myself on the line here, and make that prediction. I really think Lopez will be special and so will Abner Mares.
Hey next time you make predictions for all time greats just stick with the Rican fighters not the mexicans lol.
Mann lmmfao.
U know what though bruh, as odd as it sounds, I was never a fan of juanma until the second salido fight. Even in defeat, he showed some qualities that a lot of fighters dont have. Willingness to go balls out.
He tried boxing in the beginning but once he realized that boxing shit wasnt going to work, he said fuck this shit and resorted back to what he knew best which was brawling . It takes a lot of courage to do what he did because thats the same reason why he lost the first fight. That was gangster and juanma turned me into fan that night. I like garcia but I wanted to see juanma beat him so badly.. I think tht was the only time when I backed a rican fighter over a Mexican lol.
Juanma has much bigger cojones than cotto thats for dam sure. Imagine how he would reacted under such adversity. He probably would hve looked for the softest part of the canvas to get on bended knees or got on his bike like many times before.
Juanma is a fighter through and through
Cotto only "quit" after getting his with bricks (literally) for 11 rounds, Angulo quit just cause of a swollen eye from legal punches and no help of Plaster, bitch all you want Finito and try slamming Cotto for the first Margacheato false of a fight, but there's a reason why Margarito's bitch ass got schooled in a rematch, and never won a significant fight since being exposed and now is gonna try promoting fights in a garage somewhere in Mexico probably while working his taco truck, Cotto took his illegal beating, and losses from Pacquiao and still stepped back up and fought better opposition in Mayweather and Trout, while Margarito who claimed his eye wasn't an issue decided to turn in his Home Depot card and call it a career, must suck that your "friend" and hero is just a big joke in the sport
Here we go again with your crying business. I dont even want to respond to your plaster accusation because it holds no weight but let me just break it down for you.
Take 3 punches to give one is Margarito's game and he's always fought that way. That style worked for him only because he was blessed with a granite chin. Simply put, Cotto lost because he couldnt take as much as he dished out and his stamina issue was a big part of it.
Margarito ate alot of punches in the beginning but he was able to absorb them while closing the gap like he always does.. The deciding factor in that bout was Margarito's punch resistance and perseverance. As a knowledgable boxing guy, how can you not see this?
To me, it just seems like you are trying to justify your fighter's loss by reaching for something that doesn't exist but I can understand because Ive been there myself.
And let's not even get into the rematch man. Margarito lost that fight because he had a major handicap and the Boxing politics were against him. The referee and the doctor basically took turns carrying Cotto on their backs.
Just admit that Margarito has Cotto's number.. A healthy Margarito would've beaten Cotto 9/10..
Why am I going to admit what isn't true? The only number Margarito has is Home Depot and he has it on speed dial, Cotto was the superior boxer and that's why he schooled the worm that is Margacheato, it's no coincidence that he looked like shit even in his winning effort against a bum after being exposed as a fraud and a cheat, Giovanni Segura was mixed up in the same mess cause they shared the same trainer, difference is Segura went on to have big wins and come back from losses, Margarito......not so much
Margo didnt achieve the same success because the beatings he took caught up to him. Even without the plaster, he hurt pacqaio enough to put him in bed for days after the fight and he even admitted that margo was the hardest puncher he ever faced. This is the same pacquiao who had cotto cowering like a like a little stooge.. with or without plaster, margo had thudding punching power..