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Thats predictable reaction ? Come on man.Exactly how many times was Pavlik called plain shite prior to the fight,He is not.He was out thought and out fought be a much more advanced and multi geared Fighter albeit one that is as old as dirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Pavlik was either just plain shit or paid offQuote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
Miles, bro, let's not rob Hopkins of the win he deservedly got today. It was an excellent show of technical skill. Taylor was unable to do it against Pavlik. :cool::cool::cool:
Ive always told people that Kelly was only a 1-2 puncher and the moment he fought someone with good movement he would look silly, he doesnt cover enough angles with his punches. I thought BHOP would be the guy to expose that, but didn't think he'd win because he wouldn't have the workrate.
Not only did bhop expose it, but he suprised me by keeping it up for 12 rounds, something i DID NOT expect. Atleast my prediction on kelly's weakness was correct. Go bhop
Im not robbing anybody. I said Hopkins schooled Pavlik and said it was an exceptional performance. He is 43, it is remarkable.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
But I think my arguments stand up. And its only right that constructive criticism plays a part in the aftermath. There is always room for questioning.
Nice sig though. " Hopkins. Unbelievable.";D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesIm not robbing anybody. I said Hopkins schooled Pavlik and said it was an exceptional performance. He is 43, it is remarkable.Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
But I think my arguments stand up. And its only right that constructive criticism plays a part in the aftermath. There is always room for questioning.
I think everyone accepts that Hopkins was awesome tonight. I thought Pavlik's workrate would see him through but Hopkins fought an exceptional fight and this victory is just another example of how great he truly is.
I wanna be the first to congrat Bhop from youngstown. He gave a clinic
I'm pleased for Hopkins.
I just hope he doesn't test positive for anything.
The one fight Pav fought outside of 160 was in JT 2 at 166 and he didn't have the same workrate. He's a work horse at 160.. but i think alot of people who studied his performance in the second JT fight saw he couldn't work hard above 160Quote:
Originally Posted by The PocketRocket
Didn't look like Kelly in there he never found the right distance to land any power right hands. Hopkins established his jab early and Kelly didn't. All credit to B-hop Pavlik couldn't get off. Were shell shocked here.
Yeah but he didn't throw nearly enough punches - Pavlik's trainer was being interviewed earlier this week saying that Kelly will be averaging 96 punches a round so the gameplan was definitely to go in there and outwork Hopkins but Pavlik seemed to go into his shell.Quote:
Originally Posted by intoccabileThe one fight Pav fought outside of 160 was in JT 2 at 166 and he didn't have the same workrate. He's a work horse at 160.. but i think alot of people who studied his performance in the second JT fight saw he couldn't work hard above 160Quote:
Originally Posted by The PocketRocket
Gotcha. Defending is a must too though. Hopkins had the perfect plan. Kelly only punches at what is infront of him and when he has his feet planted. Hopkins never standing infront of him meant kelly wouldn't be able to throw punches. Kelly should really get some hooks in his arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by The PocketRocketYeah but he didn't throw nearly enough punches - Pavlik's trainer was being interviewed earlier this week saying that Kelly will be averaging 96 punches a round so the gameplan was definitely to go in there and outwork Hopkins but Pavlik seemed to go into his shell.Quote:
Originally Posted by intoccabileThe one fight Pav fought outside of 160 was in JT 2 at 166 and he didn't have the same workrate. He's a work horse at 160.. but i think alot of people who studied his performance in the second JT fight saw he couldn't work hard above 160Quote:
Originally Posted by The PocketRocket
Whenever bhop DID stop moving around him, he was throwing punches. So he kept kelly either defensive or confused - perfect execution.
:coolclick: excellent post, bang on the money. Somebody rep this guy I don't have enough posts yet. ( or maybe I can rep )Quote:
Originally Posted by intoccabile
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