Poll: Pavlik vs Abraham- Who Wins now?

I still don't know who I'd pick; just like before, though I would probably lean towards Abraham as Pavlik is going to have some confidence issues after this one sided slapping he just took, and Abraham can box, take a punch and pop real good.

Abraham and his camp are revelling in the loss Pavlik just took and will work to get him in that shellshocked, deer in the headlight look like he had against Hopkins; and not take any unneccasary risks while just trying to work Pavlik from angles, in and out and get him on points. The blueprint has been laid, actually it was somewhat laid in the second Taylor fight though Taylor just didn't have the ability to take it to him.

Pavlik is great when he is the bigger, more aggressive guy who can bully an opponent; and really imo is still the best finisher in the game right now; but we saw what a real boxer can do to him and as much as it pains me to say, make him look silly and amateurish. Abraham can do this to Pavlik. Kelly better get back to the drawing board real quick or he's in for some hard times; he can't keep fighting at MW so he could be on a Jermaine Taylor path to obscurity real soon. He's my fave fighter but I had my hands over my eyes Saturday night most of the fight as I couldn't watch;D LEARN HOW TO BOX!! I still want and Andrade/Pavlik fight. Christ I'm rambling today:lolhaha:

Pavlik at 160 will be unbeatable. I honestly can not see a thing Abraham could do to Kelly. I thought it was hilarious how HBO commentating team mentioned Abraham doing the same to Kelly. The right hand that landed on Hopkins in I believe it was the 10th would have had any fighter at 160 in trouble. Surely people will be influenced to pick Abraham to win now since Kelly just lost but give him another fight at 160 then fight Abraham and he will be the man again at 160.

He lost at 170 to a HoF/ATG who, in spite of his age, fought the best fight I've seen him fought, well, maybe ever. He's still the MW king and though Abraham is not an easy fight, my opinion doesn't change.

Abraham wins.

Pavlik showed vs Taylor in teh rematch and vs Hopkins that he hasnt got the skills to handle a mover . Abraham can move but he can bang too and I think he beats Pavlik in every area .

Aside from Abraham, are there any other middleweights that potentially could beat Pavlik?

i pput pavlik i still think hes the best at 160. he should just stay there long before going up in weight. and people are seem to be forgetting that kelly isnt even in his prime yet.

I like Abraham but Pavlik proved he needs to stay at middleweight where I think he will once again be a very effective fighter

Regardless of Saturday night,this can still be a pretty nice fight.There were many revelations verse Hopkins as to how one might defeat Pavlik,what was reinforced for me was that movement gives him big fits.You can not let him get rolling with forward offence,sharp punching and turning him makes him reset over and over,like a clock.I think Abraham's can carry this out,nice arsenal,decent but not Hopkins-esq footwork and chin from what Ive seen.I give Pav a solid chance with power and mentality,although as we witnessed,when the power is not enough and there is no plan B....you have huge problems.I think a bit of the luster is off the crown and needs to re-tool,Take a D.Lopez or Rubio & find some side to side,upperbody movement.

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Originally Posted by GAME

Abraham wins.

Pavlik showed vs Taylor in teh rematch and vs Hopkins that he hasnt got the skills to handle a mover . Abraham can move but he can bang too and I think he beats Pavlik in every area .

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Kelly Pavlik beat Jermain Taylor by 7-5 in the rematch pretty convincingly IMO, and how is Arthur Abraham a good mover ? i've never seen Arthur Abraham move well around the ring. And how is his skill set anywhere near the likes of Jermain Taylor, Bernard Hopkins ?

Abraham can be hurt aswell as the 1st fight with Edison Miranda proved. I think if Pavlik can box using his height advantage and not push the action he can win on points.

Abraham fights at a very slow pace and can be simply outworked. Pavlik just has to use his brain rather than power.

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Originally Posted by GAME

Abraham wins.

Pavlik showed vs Taylor in teh rematch and vs Hopkins that he hasnt got the skills to handle a mover . Abraham can move but he can bang too and I think he beats Pavlik in every area .

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Kelly Pavlik beat Jermain Taylor by 7-5 in the rematch pretty convincingly IMO, and how is Arthur Abraham a good mover ? i've never seen Arthur Abraham move well around the ring. And how is his skill set anywhere near the likes of Jermain Taylor, Bernard Hopkins ?

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Nah I wasnt impressed with Pav in the Taylor rematch . I was even less impressed when fought Hopkins . Abraham has all the tools to handle Pavlik , especially after the demoralising defeat to an old man . I think he'll be there for the taking against a young powerful champion like Abraham. Plus Pav will struggle to drop 2 weight divisions. Im so confident Abraham would beat him Id put money on it .

I say Pavlik would still win, Hopkins night of fight was 184, And Hopkins hit him with everything plus the kitchen sink and Pavlik was still standing strong at the end of the fight. By no means is this a easy fight for Pavlik, But I think he guts out another TKO victory