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Originally Posted by SweetPea
please dont start that arguement again. i had so many arguements on the Hatton and Mayweather fight its not even worth speaking about anymore. especially when the guys say that the ref didnt let hatton fight his fight.
Pavlik wasn't at all discrediting Hopkins. He said "it wasn't his craftiness" (that made him lose) but infact all in himself. You somehow took that as him insulting Hopkins? If you look later on in the video he stuttered saying "he beat me" to flat out saying "he (Hopkins) whooped my butt."Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
Trust me, Pavlik was taken to school, and he definitely learned a lesson.
If Pavlik fans are known as "dickhead" fans I could only imagine the adjective that is used to describe the Calzaghe fanatics...Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
Bruno already said "classic" but it is exactly that...Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
If his fans are dick heads then i must have a big pair of balls covering my eyes because im still a fan was before the fight and i am now;);DQuote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
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Originally Posted by piye
Its easy to be classy when you're knocking out/beating everyone you fight. Class is measured on how you act when faced with adversity and defeat, and I don't think he's quite measuring up.
Good Post.Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12Pavlik wasn't at all discrediting Hopkins. He said "it wasn't his craftiness" (that made him lose) but infact all in himself. You somehow took that as him insulting Hopkins? If you look later on in the video he stuttered saying "he beat me" to flat out saying "he (Hopkins) whooped my butt."Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
Trust me, Pavlik was taken to school, and he definitely learned a lesson.
Bruno already said "classic" but it is exactly that...Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
No big deal, he is a bit concussed. He did not give an interview on Top Rank so was interested in what he said. He is a poor technical boxer who trains and hits hard.
Takes time to get over a lose like that still young we while see. I like Pavlik but man does he have some work to do i feel Pavlik whiel come back better then Cotto who i think is done but could be wrong about it. I think Pavlik can still run on and be teh man at mw as for Cotto think he may turn out like Vargas but lets see how it goes on the comeback fights.
I'll be honest, I am curious to see if Pavlik gets over this psychologically. He was very confident in himself. Maybe too confident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Thank you master i know my spelling is not that great most of it is because i have large hands tend to hit to many keys at once. Reason why you read some of my stuff and find radom letters in it. I cant get the spell check to work so i can not find my mistakes but do your best i wish i coudl just record my voice and would get my point alot better lol.
I gotta say that he really didn't look right in there. I rewatched the Miranda and 1st Taylor fights yesterday and that just wasn't the same guy in there. And it's not just because of the shots he was taking, Taylor was hitting him with great shots but he just kept coming forward and throwing shots. It was a strange performance.
I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
You're watching the wrong fights imo lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Both JT and Miranda toss the same type of punches and both have teh same flaw of dropping their guard low, standing in the pocket, on the ropes, or in a corner. They let Kelly plant their feet.
Notice how god awful kelly looked in the rematch with JT in comparision to his first fight? Not just because it was at 160, but because Taylor fought a more technical fight, just without the lateral movement.
Pavlik can't handle slick stuff.
As for the guy who said Pavlik wasn't discrediting hopkins.
He clearly says hopkins can't be that slick, he lost to taylor twice, a guy that he beat twice.. and lost to Calzaghe.. and that they were hitting him at will.. so he must not be that crafty.
That's an insult IMO, and and even bigger insult in himself for thinking that he could be Hopkins just because he had lost to Taylor.
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Originally Posted by caleoh12I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
so im guessing theres gonna be another thread call "That wasnt Pavlik in the ring?"
Only if that performance was done by Pacquiao, Saddoboxer would've already posted that type of thread...good thing he isn't Pavlik fan...=)Quote:
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Originally Posted by caleoh12I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
so im guessing theres gonna be another thread call "That wasnt Pavlik in the ring?"
It was part craftiness but mostly speed. If Hopkins didn't have the speed he would have never pulled this craftiness off. Pavlik couldn't land hardly a single punch because of hopkins speed advantage.