James Kirkland vs Brian Vera as co-feature to Hatton/Malignaggi

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest2

Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZv-LqFA54judge for yourself....this is not speculation that was a good stoppage. There is no argument to be made here that Jaidon didn't hurt Vera, there is absolutely no question about that. Every punch that landed at the end there buckled Vera's legs.

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I don't think that fight is really relevent in all honesty. I believe Vera said in subsequent interviews how he was uncomfortable fighting to an orchestral score, and not only that but they kept on changing the beat.

I thought he was actually dominating during the heavy drum sessions, but the Contender people kept speeding the tempo up and he lost his rythm.

Had there been less musical accompaniment I think he would have boxed his own fight more. As it was he got hyped up into fighting at too fast a pace, he tried to match the tempo of the percussion.

Without music I think vera would have won.

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Lol.

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest2

Kirkland stamina will be tested. Vera chin is solid. This will be a good fight.

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Kirkland is more than capable of being at least as effective as "the Don" and that was over in two if I'm not mistaken.

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First off with the contender he took last minute replacement while the rest of show had been training for almost three months and him only two weeks. Never has made an excuse 168 is not his weight fought art that weight because he is a fighter. James needs to watch out because he is finally getting the real training he needs just like he did against Lee. New fighter new erra for him. Watch for the upset . Lee is an awesome boxing and would handle Kirtkland. He is only five seven with heels on. Quit hating and watch the outcome of this fight. James is a greay fighter dont get me wrong but heart and determination will go along ways and he will be tested believe that. Its going to be fire works....

I read somethere that Kirkland is a mirror image of Hatton is this true? Will this fight be worth watching or will it be over before i find my seat?

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Originally Posted by littlebif

I read somethere that Kirkland is a mirror image of Hatton is this true? Will this fight be worth watching or will it be over before i find my seat?

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Any fight with Kirkland is worth watching. He is an exciting fighter that's for sure. He really needs to work on his defense, but he comes guns blazing from the opening bell.

So if you are going, yes, you should be in your seat for this one.

Here is just an example of one of James Kirklands action packed fights. You can check out even more on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp-W8Ut3NLM

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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I guess they are fixing the mess between Golden Boy & Gary Shaw regarding Kirkland.

It will be good to see Kirkland get some more exposure on HBO. I think he should take care of Vera pretty easily.


ESPN - Legal battle nears end, opening door for Kirkland-Vera battle Nov. 22 on HBO - Boxing

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Definate showcase fight for Kirkland, easy money, easy to look good.

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I'm sure Andy Lee thought the same thing.;)

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who is the don?

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Jaidon Codrington (sp?) runner up in the contender.

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Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

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The "Don" comparison works. Vera should be easy for Kirkland.

The "Don" knocked Vera out on the Contender after allegedly destroying him in the amateurs. Vera was tested by Lee and passed. Lee looked inexperienced in that fight, but a much better boxer than Vera. Not to take anything away from Vera's win: a win's a win.

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest2

Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZv-LqFA54judge for yourself....this is not speculation that was a good stoppage. There is no argument to be made here that Jaidon didn't hurt Vera, there is absolutely no question about that. Every punch that landed at the end there buckled Vera's legs.

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I don't think that fight is really relevent in all honesty. I believe Vera said in subsequent interviews how he was uncomfortable fighting to an orchestral score, and not only that but they kept on changing the beat.

I thought he was actually dominating during the heavy drum sessions, but the Contender people kept speeding the tempo up and he lost his rythm.

Had there been less musical accompaniment I think he would have boxed his own fight more. As it was he got hyped up into fighting at too fast a pace, he tried to match the tempo of the percussion.

Without music I think vera would have won.

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Strong Post!

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by killersheep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZv-LqFA54judge for yourself....this is not speculation that was a good stoppage. There is no argument to be made here that Jaidon didn't hurt Vera, there is absolutely no question about that. Every punch that landed at the end there buckled Vera's legs.

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I don't think that fight is really relevent in all honesty. I believe Vera said in subsequent interviews how he was uncomfortable fighting to an orchestral score, and not only that but they kept on changing the beat.

I thought he was actually dominating during the heavy drum sessions, but the Contender people kept speeding the tempo up and he lost his rythm.

Had there been less musical accompaniment I think he would have boxed his own fight more. As it was he got hyped up into fighting at too fast a pace, he tried to match the tempo of the percussion.

Without music I think vera would have won.

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Strong Post!

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Yeah I have no defense for that other than to say, Ann Wolfe will probably beat a drum in the corner during rounds to assure Vera is off pace.

This is actually a dangerous fight for Kirkland. Vera is a bigger man. Sure he lost to Jaidon, but Jaidon is a true SMW/LHW. Vera has fought his whole career at or above 160. Kirkland is more polished, Lee and Codrington are both probably better than the guys Kirkland has faced. Vera is a step up for Kirkland in two ways - he's a step up in size and a step up in quality. That's a recipe for an upset.

I'm gonna be honest.

I've never seen Kirkland fight. But I've heard good things about him and I'l watch with interest especially as I've seen Vera's last 3 outings.

His Trainer in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-hmcnlmrQ

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

This is actually a dangerous fight for Kirkland. Vera is a bigger man. Sure he lost to Jaidon, but Jaidon is a true SMW/LHW. Vera has fought his whole career at or above 160. Kirkland is more polished, Lee and Codrington are both probably better than the guys Kirkland has faced. Vera is a step up for Kirkland in two ways - he's a step up in size and a step up in quality. That's a recipe for an upset.

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Is your prediction that Vera beats Kirkland?

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

This is actually a dangerous fight for Kirkland. Vera is a bigger man. Sure he lost to Jaidon, but Jaidon is a true SMW/LHW. Vera has fought his whole career at or above 160. Kirkland is more polished, Lee and Codrington are both probably better than the guys Kirkland has faced. Vera is a step up for Kirkland in two ways - he's a step up in size and a step up in quality. That's a recipe for an upset.

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I'm still voting for a slaughter by Kirkland, I give it 4 rounds tops.

I'm not all that convinced vera could beat wolfe let alone kirkland. I pick kirkland by KO not even in the first round i say sometime back in the dressing room.

I'm picking Vera TKO...

I like Kirkland and I think he's exciting as hell.
But I just think he's gonna be a little too wild and is gonna get caught by the more relaxed and composed Vera.