"Fighter of the Decade" Rankings

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

[Mayweather moved up in weight and proved to be the best fighter in each class (with the exception of welterweight because I don't think he fought the best at that class..

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Or light welter;D

If Joe and Floyd were the same weight, Joe would win, Floyd needs fighters to give him space and time to be able to work, Joe would give him niether.

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

[Mayweather moved up in weight and proved to be the best fighter in each class (with the exception of welterweight because I don't think he fought the best at that class..

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Or light welter;D

If Joe and Floyd were the same weight, Joe would win, Floyd needs fighters to give him space and time to be able to work, Joe would give him niether.

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You honestly think P4P Calzaghe would beat Mayweather? Calzaghe struggled against Hopkins who LET Joe back into the fight by not throwing punches. Mayweather is much harder to hit than Hopkins IMO and would have never stopped throwing punches. Either way, Joe over Floyd, NEGATIVE...

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

If Joe and Floyd were the same weight, Joe would win, Floyd needs fighters to give him space and time to be able to work, Joe would give him niether.

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Chuckles.

There is nothing that Joe Calzaghe does in a boxing ring better than PBF.

p4p power
defense
speed
chin
ring generalship
accuracy
non-slappery

....nothing

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

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Originally Posted by ross

If you mean who has been the most consistent over the last 10 years it has to be Calzaghe, 10 years ago Jones was the best fighter p4p but for consistancy no one can match what Joe has done.

To stay at the top of his game and to beat a very good young undefeated fighter like Kessler (who will go on to prove his class) AFTER being the top dog in his division for 10 years and to piss all over him, totaly outclassing him.

If Mayweather can manage 10 years as champ in 1 weight and then after the ten years beat the best available competiton with ease (not avoiding the best fighters in certain weight classes to fight recenetly defeated)and has been names), then I would rank him higher than Joe but as it is he wont.

Mayweather wont be an undisputed or linear champ in any weight at 36, Joe was, in 2 differnt weights after being a champ undefeated for 11 years.

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Like I said before, Calzaghe gets a lot of credit for remaining undefeated in my eyes but don't get carried away here. Who has he fought in 10 years with the exception of the past two years? A bunch of fighters people barely know.

The consistency award goes to Calzaghe but taking bigger/better fights or trying to get his name out there didn't happen until his thrashing of Lacy. Joe has had a hell of a 2 years, but other fighters have done more with a longer period of time.

I don't see how Calzaghe can be ahead of Mayweather in a "fighter of a decade sense." Yea Calzaghe dominated a weight class, but not a tough class. Mayweather moved up in weight and proved to be the best fighter in each class (with the exception of welterweight because I don't think he fought the best at that class). Joe moved up one weight class and won a questionable decision over Hopkins. Had Calzaghe moved up the weight classes like Floyd, he would've been destroyed a while ago.

Don't take this as Calzaghe bashing, I'm just trying to prove my point on a Mayweather vs Calzaghe "fighter of the decade" sense. Again, Pacquiao and Hopkins is still further in my list than Calzaghe is. 2 years does not equal a decade...

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Yeah I agree, it cant count above fights taken, if we are adding undefeated into fighter of the decade why no put the retired German Okkte in there as well?

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

[Mayweather moved up in weight and proved to be the best fighter in each class (with the exception of welterweight because I don't think he fought the best at that class..

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Or light welter;D

If Joe and Floyd were the same weight, Joe would win, Floyd needs fighters to give him space and time to be able to work, Joe would give him niether.

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You can always count on Ross to give an unbiased opinion regarding British fighters :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

[Mayweather moved up in weight and proved to be the best fighter in each class (with the exception of welterweight because I don't think he fought the best at that class..

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Or light welter;D

If Joe and Floyd were the same weight, Joe would win, Floyd needs fighters to give him space and time to be able to work, Joe would give him niether.

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Such as Hatton?

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

[Mayweather moved up in weight and proved to be the best fighter in each class (with the exception of welterweight because I don't think he fought the best at that class..

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Or light welter;D

If Joe and Floyd were the same weight, Joe would win, Floyd needs fighters to give him space and time to be able to work, Joe would give him niether.

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Such as Hatton?

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Don't bother he hasn't got a clue its well known fact swarmers like Jesus Chavez, Ricky Hatton, Phillip N'dou all got a pasting off Floyd Mayweather.

And Ross if you reply to this please don't say Jose Luis Castillo, he didn't swarm he bobbed and weaved picked his shots. And went almost entirely to the body.

Plus Floyd Mayweather had a injured shoulder in that fight, so he wasn't 100 percent. Joe Calzaghe had trouble against defensive counter puncher Bernard Hopkins.

And Floyd Mayweather is a better counter puncher, and also has a better defense than Bernard Hopkins. Joe Calzaghe was getting caught with straight right hands down the pipe all night, Floyd Mayweather would easily avoid Joe Calzaghe's slapping combinations, and would counter and pot shot Joe Calzaghe all night winning a clear cut UD.

I vote John Ruiz.

Floyd is the fighter of the decade, and I don't think it's even up for debate.

The real debate is where people slot in behind him. I don't list Jones high, because he was only elite for the first 3-4 years of the decade. He belongs more on a list for top fighters of 90s.

If Pacquiao either beats DLH or looks very very good in defeat, I'd have him at #2. No offense to Calzaghe, but his opposition doesn't match up to Manny's.

I rank Billy Dib 10,374th.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Floyd is the fighter of the decade, and I don't think it's even up for debate.

The real debate is where people slot in behind him. I don't list Jones high, because he was only elite for the first 3-4 years of the decade. He belongs more on a list for top fighters of 90s.

If Pacquiao either beats DLH or looks very very good in defeat, I'd have him at #2. No offense to Calzaghe, but his opposition doesn't match up to Manny's.

I rank Billy Dib 10,374th.

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Take it you like Dib then i don't think he is that good;D

Floyd Mayweather Jr.
-Undefeated, Untouched. Whether or not he fought everybody he couldor not doesn't change the fact that he beat some very good fighters in very convincing fashion.
Shane Mosely
This man was a Lightweight ten years ago. A lightweight that could well have given Chavez and even Duran hell. What he has achieved since is merely supplementary to Shane's Lightweight greatness.
Oscar De la Hoya
His better days saw him provide some scintilating fights, rarely losing. Great fighter.
Bernard Hopkins
Can't say anything about Bernard, let him tell his own story, he's doing it well.
Marco Antonio Barrera
Beat Morales twice, beat Marquez, destroyed the Prince, assasinated egeryone he met in his prime and past it went the distance with Manny Pac.
Winky Wright
Inherited greatness in the way he shut down two other greats, Trinidad and Mosley.
Lennox Lewis
Hindsight is a blessing.
Joe Calzaghe
Perhaps the greatest thinker in the past ten, rivalled only by Mayweather and Lewis.
Felix Trinidad
Raw greatness.
Roy Jones Jr.
-We saw Roy at his most dominant within the past ten years.
Unfortuantely we also saw those heavy defeats, but the best Roy Jones Junior was active within the past ten years.

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

[Mayweather moved up in weight and proved to be the best fighter in each class (with the exception of welterweight because I don't think he fought the best at that class..

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Or light welter;D

If Joe and Floyd were the same weight, Joe would win, Floyd needs fighters to give him space and time to be able to work, Joe would give him niether.

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that is the dumbest shit i ever heard.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Floyd Mayweather Jr.
-Undefeated, Untouched. Whether or not he fought everybody he couldor not doesn't change the fact that he beat some very good fighters in very convincing fashion.
Shane Mosely
This man was a Lightweight ten years ago. A lightweight that could well have given Chavez and even Duran hell. What he has achieved since is merely supplementary to Shane's Lightweight greatness.
Oscar De la Hoya
His better days saw him provide some scintilating fights, rarely losing. Great fighter.
Bernard Hopkins
Can't say anything about Bernard, let him tell his own story, he's doing it well.
Marco Antonio Barrera
Beat Morales twice, beat Marquez, destroyed the Prince, assasinated egeryone he met in his prime and past it went the distance with Manny Pac.
Winky Wright
Inherited greatness in the way he shut down two other greats, Trinidad and Mosley.
Lennox Lewis
Hindsight is a blessing.
Joe Calzaghe
Perhaps the greatest thinker in the past ten, rivalled only by Mayweather and Lewis.
Felix Trinidad
Raw greatness.
Roy Jones Jr.
-We saw Roy at his most dominant within the past ten years.
Unfortuantely we also saw those heavy defeats, but the best Roy Jones Junior was active within the past ten years.

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pretty much the same if you take out calzaghe and put in pacman. what about glen johnson he had some good fight with woods and even beat tarver the first time they met.

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

pretty much the same if you take out calzaghe and put in pacman. what about glen johnson he had some good fight with woods and even beat tarver the first time they met.

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Pacman doesn't need to be in this list.
The fact is Pac is still going, still forging his legacy, although I do believe his weight jump for DLH is ill fated, he can return to 130 and forge a legacy all of his own that will see him No.1 on a list similar to this in ten years time.

After giving this post some thought and putting my mind to it, here's my list.... I just didn't throw this list out of no where I gave it some thought and put it together... I changed it about 13 times before I came to this conclusion.

1. PBF
2. SSM
3. B-Hop
4. ODLH
5. MAB
6. Lennox
7. Winky
8. PAC
9. Calzaghe
10. JMM