Vic Ortiz Fired, He's beating DLH too much!!

Same guy who was floored by Hopkins in the first round, and continued to land nothing despite almost attempting a thousand slaps?

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

Anyone else notice Freddie Roach's fighters have lost everytime they've been featured on a 24/7 series? Oscar lost against Floyd and Bernard lost to Joe.

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There was no Calzaghe-Hopkins 24/7.

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Originally Posted by JoeyUK

Interesting read...

'In fact WBO champion Gerry Penalosa’s manager Billy Keane told us earlier that Khan’s handspeed appeared to give Pacquiao a few problems at the start of their first sparring session'.

I guess Pacquiao can only be thankful Oscar's speed isn't what it used to be then.

Good to hear Khan is giving a champion some problems also, Khan will be back! But that's for another thread.

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You also didn't finish the quote from that press release. It gave him problems but it went along to say that it was only a matter of time before he was able to adjust to it.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

Anyone else notice Freddie Roach's fighters have lost everytime they've been featured on a 24/7 series? Oscar lost against Floyd and Bernard lost to Joe.

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There was no Calzaghe-Hopkins 24/7.

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You guys are right! There was no Calzghe/Hopkins 24/7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvD7QRCouQk

This wasn't 24/7? i remember watching it on hbo though

That was just a countdown the 24/7 follows them around week to week and has several installments.

That's right because that was the ridiclous countdown where they said Joe punched 8 times per second and he was standing there with his hands like an inch from the bag just touching it as many times as possible.

Just may be Oscars way of hyping his fighter. He has said that Victor Ortiz has the ability to become the next "Golden Boy".

wrong thread

oops wrong thread...

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by JoeyUK

Interesting read...

'In fact WBO champion Gerry Penalosa’s manager Billy Keane told us earlier that Khan’s handspeed appeared to give Pacquiao a few problems at the start of their first sparring session'.

I guess Pacquiao can only be thankful Oscar's speed isn't what it used to be then.

Good to hear Khan is giving a champion some problems also, Khan will be back! But that's for another thread.

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Why? Oscar was never faster then Amir Khan, and what you wrote was misleading, because it said Manny was soon able to deal with Amir speed.

I also think Roach brings up valid points

Hopkins is 43, whether he is getting hit a lot or not he has still been fighting for 20+ years, and that is bad for your brain, especially at the top level of the sport.
James Toney gets hit a lot, and many of the guys don't get ailments from the sport until later on.

Its like people who tan a lot or eat lots of sugar, the body works in a way that it will affect you down the road, Muhammad ali didn't have Parkinson's right after his last fight. I guarantee half the guys Roach is worried about will have significant brain problems as they got older.

Also why couldn't Oscar be being beaten by Victor Ortiz? Have you seen Victor Ortiz fight? He fast, and hits hard. I could see him not necessarily beating Oscar up, but pushing him more than he would like to be pushed for that long.

Freddie Roach is a great trainer, he did everything he could with Oscar, but it was Oscar's fault he didn't follow through with the game plan.

Hopkins in better shape against Wright then he did against Calzaghe. I think Roach did a good job with Hopkins.

What he has done with Pacquaio is amazing, he has made Pacquaio into a very good somewhat technical fighter from an all out bomber.

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Excellent points.:cool: