Re: Vic Darchiniyan =#1 p4p
So tell me exactly how many chickens can you get out of a dozen fertile eggs?
Some people only count belts collected and what can be born out of them too.
*Ya get lucky when you get a double yoker or two belts for the one fight ;)!
Re: Vic Darchiniyan =#1 p4p
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Looks like some of the Pac fans who are rabid should slide over on the Short bus :bucktooth:.They have some company
Nice commanding win vs. A very capable Champion in Mijares,he shut him down.But # 1,give me a break!
Let him beat Donaire in a rematch and or Montiel.
LOL. Let Vic face Donaire again and see if he can make a promise;D;D;D
Re: Vic Darchiniyan =#1 p4p
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Gotta love when we get a new guy who talks out of his ass...Vic is not near a P4P top 10 fighter...good win over Mijares yes but still....Doniare dominated him...he outboxed him then KO'd him....Has Vic improved since?...Yes a bit but so has Nonito so I see a rematch going the same...If Vic went near 122lbs and managed to get a fight with Marquez or some miracle Vazquez either man woukd bring him into a war and Vic has no chance of going toe to toe with either...he would find out quickly the difference between fighting Kirilov, Majares and Catubay then one of those two men...
I think Vic has a good chance v Donaire. He was careless in first fight, it happens. I thiink he was getting on top at the time of the KO, and this led to his lack of defense. Darch has his faults no doubt but kinda annoys me
how no one really gave him a chance against Mijares, yet when he KO's him Mijares wasnt that good anyway...
Im not saying your the worst for this at all, u have many good points, but i think some others should give Vic more credit than he is getting. Sure Vic talks shit, always has, but he just KTFO a ring top 10 P4P guy. Dont happen that often.
I mean if a more popular fighter did the same, say Arce for example, he'd get tonnes more credit.
Vic was not careless. He was clearly schooled by Donaire.
For the record, I predicted Vic to KO Mijares in 9. See the boxing prediction and you'll know I respect Vic's power.
Saying that Vic was careless that's why Donaire won is simply discrediting the talent of Donaire.
In a rematch, I'd still favor Donaire to win by a TKO.
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DaxxKahn
Gotta love when we get a new guy who talks out of his ass...Vic is not near a P4P top 10 fighter...good win over Mijares yes but still....Doniare dominated him...he outboxed him then KO'd him....Has Vic improved since?...Yes a bit but so has Nonito so I see a rematch going the same...If Vic went near 122lbs and managed to get a fight with Marquez or some miracle Vazquez either man woukd bring him into a war and Vic has no chance of going toe to toe with either...he would find out quickly the difference between fighting Kirilov, Majares and Catubay then one of those two men...
I think Vic has a good chance v Donaire. He was careless in first fight, it happens. I thiink he was getting on top at the time of the KO, and this led to his lack of defense. Darch has his faults no doubt but kinda annoys me
how no one really gave him a chance against Mijares, yet when he KO's him Mijares wasnt that good anyway...
Im not saying your the worst for this at all, u have many good points, but i think some others should give Vic more credit than he is getting. Sure Vic talks shit, always has, but he just KTFO a ring top 10 P4P guy. Dont happen that often.
I mean if a more popular fighter did the same, say Arce for example, he'd get tonnes more credit.
Vic was not careless. He was clearly schooled by Donaire.
For the record, I predicted Vic to KO Mijares in 9. See the boxing prediction and you'll know I respect Vic's power.
Saying that Vic was careless that's why Donaire won is simply discrediting the talent of Donaire.
In a rematch, I'd still favor Donaire to win by a TKO.
When i say no one i mean the majority of boxings so called 'experts' and a lot of the better boxing judges on this site. Donaire may well TKO Vic, but i think Vic is learning from that mistake and is boxing much more now.
Atleast since his loss Vic has been fighting good opposition, Donaire has just been terribly inactive and fought 2 lesser fighters, right when he should have been making the most of his big win. He needs to back up that win against Vic with another victory over a top opponent to prove it wasnt just luck.
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daPunisha
We need to realize this man is the #1 p4p fighter today.
no we dont
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daPunisha's P4P top 5
1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Amir Khan
3. Victor Oganov
4. Reggie Strickland
5. Charlie Zelenoff
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daPunisha's P4P top 5
1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Amir Khan
3. Victor Oganov
4. Reggie Strickland
5. Charlie Zelenoff
I have Zelenoff at six behind Hartley.
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eagle
daPunisha's P4P top 5
1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Amir Khan
3. Victor Oganov
4. Reggie Strickland
5. Charlie Zelenoff
I have Zelenoff at six behind Hartley.
HAHA good point. Hartley just had too much of everything for Zelenoff.
Put on a boxing clinic.....;D
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daPunisha's P4P top 5
1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Amir Khan
3. Victor Oganov
4. Reggie Strickland
5. Charlie Zelenoff
:lol: He clearly has a bias against the Heavyweight's.Why no "King of the 4 rounders" Champ Butterbean.He has to have held that title for at least 8+ years :dontknow: .......;D
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
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eagle
daPunisha's P4P top 5
1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Amir Khan
3. Victor Oganov
4. Reggie Strickland
5. Charlie Zelenoff
:lol: He clearly has a bias against the Heavyweight's.Why no "King of the 4 rounders" Champ Butterbean.He has to have held that title for at least 8+ years :dontknow: .......;D
He is at 7. If not for inactivity he'd be higher.
Butterbean is good, he beat Peter Mcneeley, went the distance with Larry Holmes, and had a high KO %.......:lickish:
Re: Vic Darchiniyan =#1 p4p
Definitely not p4p 1. But i cant believe some of the lack of credit going around in this thread. Most everyone said vic would get his ears boxed off and would be made to look amateur. Mijares was boxings next big superstar, a master boxer, the man dominate the division...then vic came and knocked him the fuck out. So wheres his credit, im pretty sure alot of guys on this forum had mijares in their top 10 so how come vic doesnt jump in there? Won titles in two weight divisions, now undisputed champion, had unified in his last division. So one loss takes that all away does it?
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Vics the man period. iI mean i love Tarver and he used to back up his talk but hes getting old. Here are my top 5 p4p guys
1. Vic Darchinyan impressive win, against a guy noone gave him a shot at. Knocked out a top 10 p4p guy give it up for Vic. Noone fights that awkwardly. He will get revenge on Donaire. That was a lucky punch along the lines of Tzu vs Judah or Jones -Tarver. We need the rematch to prove that fluke. Thanks Vic for turning my $150 into $340 :)
2. Paul Williams - Noone will fight this man. He obviously got complacent against quintana but he erased that mistake. This man will be the best fighter of our generation, he just needs some marketing behind him. We all know y noone will fight this man - fear. This man would destroy Cotto or Mayweather. I'd bet the house on that.
3. Chad Dawson - Guys a superstar in the making how he handled a legend like Tarver. I was really impressed and I know he'd beat Calzaghe if they ever fought. Calzaghe dont want any of this though.
4. Bernard Hopkins- the man just solidifed y hes a living legend. Who beats a prime superstar like Pavlik at 43 years old. Joe needs to give this man a rematch
5. Tie between paquiou and Calzaghe. - They're 2 very good fighters but have both fought old opposition to pad they're resumes. Calslappy wont get by Jones next weekend. I've got $500 on a Roy Jones win to win over $1200. Roys going to be focused on the task whip that overrated Calslappy.
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daPunisha
Vics the man period. iI mean i love Tarver and he used to back up his talk but hes getting old. Here are my top 5 p4p guys
1. Vic Darchinyan impressive win, against a guy noone gave him a shot at. Knocked out a top 10 p4p guy give it up for Vic. Noone fights that awkwardly. He will get revenge on Donaire. That was a lucky punch along the lines of Tzu vs Judah or Jones -Tarver. We need the rematch to prove that fluke. Thanks Vic for turning my $150 into $340 :)
2. Paul Williams - Noone will fight this man. He obviously got complacent against quintana but he erased that mistake. This man will be the best fighter of our generation, he just needs some marketing behind him. We all know y noone will fight this man - fear. This man would destroy Cotto or Mayweather. I'd bet the house on that.
3. Chad Dawson - Guys a superstar in the making how he handled a legend like Tarver. I was really impressed and I know he'd beat Calzaghe if they ever fought. Calzaghe dont want any of this though.
4. Bernard Hopkins- the man just solidifed y hes a living legend. Who beats a prime superstar like Pavlik at 43 years old. Joe needs to give this man a rematch
5. Tie between paquiou and Calzaghe. - They're 2 very good fighters but have both fought old opposition to pad they're resumes. Calslappy wont get by Jones next weekend. I've got $500 on a Roy Jones win to win over $1200. Roys going to be focused on the task whip that overrated Calslappy.
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Clearly not a fan of Calzaghe I take it, right ?
Hey...ever hear of JMM ??? And exactly how is Tarver a legend.....ecspecially if his win over Jones was a....lucky punch?
Someone get the plunger.
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OumaFan
WOW! I had no clue that was the same guy..
BTW, where's is Zab in his top 5 P4P?