Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
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jangeorg
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leftylee number 1 groupie
I really don't see the point of a rematch at this point in Joe Calzaghe's career. I thought Joe Calzaghe won pretty comfortably 8-4 or 9-3. Once Joe Calzaghe adjusted after the 4th round it was all Joe Calzaghe, and Mikkel Kessler looked very dishearten.
I like Mikkel Kessler and this was a good win for Joe Calzaghe, but Mikkel Kessler has done nothing to warrant a rematch. He had chances to fight fighters like Edison Miranda ETC. But decided to waste this whole year fighting nobodies.
Kessler in most international observers' eyes gave Joe a closer fight than Hopkins did. Most international observers see Hopkins wining 1-3 rounds, whle most agree that Kessler won 3-6 rounds (rounds 1-5 + round 12). If Kessler was American there would probably be a unanimous cry for a rematch and most US media would see it as a robbery (although the rest of the world would still see it as close but no robbery at all). Now, some American fans even try to make the Hopkins fight seem close eventhough that wasn;t nearly as competitive
If anyone believes that then there insane, it was an easy win for Joe Calzaghe. I don't care what some idiots think, they can't score a fight if they scored it that way.
Bernard Hopkins vs Joe Calzaghe was much closer and i personally had Bernard Hopkins winning based on the knockdown. He landed the cleaner more effective shots, and Joe Calzaghe could never get going with his offense.
Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
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leftylee number 1 groupie
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jangeorg
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leftylee number 1 groupie
I really don't see the point of a rematch at this point in Joe Calzaghe's career. I thought Joe Calzaghe won pretty comfortably 8-4 or 9-3. Once Joe Calzaghe adjusted after the 4th round it was all Joe Calzaghe, and Mikkel Kessler looked very dishearten.
I like Mikkel Kessler and this was a good win for Joe Calzaghe, but Mikkel Kessler has done nothing to warrant a rematch. He had chances to fight fighters like Edison Miranda ETC. But decided to waste this whole year fighting nobodies.
Kessler in most international observers' eyes gave Joe a closer fight than Hopkins did. Most international observers see Hopkins wining 1-3 rounds, whle most agree that Kessler won 3-6 rounds (rounds 1-5 + round 12). If Kessler was American there would probably be a unanimous cry for a rematch and most US media would see it as a robbery (although the rest of the world would still see it as close but no robbery at all). Now, some American fans even try to make the Hopkins fight seem close eventhough that wasn;t nearly as competitive
If anyone believes that then there insane, it was an easy win for Joe Calzaghe. I don't care what some idiots think, they can't score a fight if they scored it that way.
Bernard Hopkins vs Joe Calzaghe was much closer and i personally had Bernard Hopkins winning based on the knockdown. He landed the cleaner more effective shots, and Joe Calzaghe could never get going with his offense.
Yeah the shots were so effective he did nothing but back peddle all night and got hit more than any other fight he had ever been in with, they were so effective.
and i don't think anyone would be shocked that you of all people would have Calzaghe lossing a fairly close fight.
Hell it's a wonder you haven't gone on about how he is prone to straight right hands again, you must be closing in on the 1 millionth mark for that one, i heard saddo has a band booked for the land mark post.
Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
haha, thats some funny shit... true though...
Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
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DaxxKahn
If Hopkins put the performance on he did against Pavlik and Calzaghe the one he did against Jones it would be a damn entertaining bout
Their styles stopped each other from looking good, Hopkins would run then put his head down throw an overhand right and grab, Joe would start to throw but have his rythm interupted.
I agree, Kessler was a much bigger name just before the Calzaghe fight, hes still a very good fighter but he needs to build up his star quality by beating a named fighter first and id love it to be Froch bouncing off the canvas to shut him up and ridiculous talk of a Calzaghe match;D
Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
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Preme
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leftylee number 1 groupie
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jangeorg
Kessler in most international observers' eyes gave Joe a closer fight than Hopkins did. Most international observers see Hopkins wining 1-3 rounds, whle most agree that Kessler won 3-6 rounds (rounds 1-5 + round 12). If Kessler was American there would probably be a unanimous cry for a rematch and most US media would see it as a robbery (although the rest of the world would still see it as close but no robbery at all). Now, some American fans even try to make the Hopkins fight seem close eventhough that wasn;t nearly as competitive
If anyone believes that then there insane, it was an easy win for Joe Calzaghe. I don't care what some idiots think, they can't score a fight if they scored it that way.
Bernard Hopkins vs Joe Calzaghe was much closer and i personally had Bernard Hopkins winning based on the knockdown. He landed the cleaner more effective shots, and Joe Calzaghe could never get going with his offense.
Yeah the shots were so effective he did nothing but back peddle all night and got hit more than any other fight he had ever been in with, they were so effective.
and i don't think anyone would be shocked that you of all people would have Calzaghe lossing a fairly close fight.
Hell it's a wonder you haven't gone on about how he is prone to straight right hands again, you must be closing in on the 1 millionth mark for that one, i heard saddo has a band booked for the land mark post.
Uhh i have nothing against Joe Calzaghe he is a great fighter, i had him losing by 1 point and many people see it that way. And why are you getting frustrated because i point out a fact that he is very suspect to straight right hands.
I am allowed to discuss his weaknesses, i don't care if your big fan of his or not. Lasty i don't mention it all the time only when the Bernard Hopkins/Robin Reid fights are brought up.
Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
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gudnite vienna
haha, thats some funny shit... true though...
Whats funny ?
Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
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leftylee number 1 groupie
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jangeorg
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leftylee number 1 groupie
I really don't see the point of a rematch at this point in Joe Calzaghe's career. I thought Joe Calzaghe won pretty comfortably 8-4 or 9-3. Once Joe Calzaghe adjusted after the 4th round it was all Joe Calzaghe, and Mikkel Kessler looked very dishearten.
I like Mikkel Kessler and this was a good win for Joe Calzaghe, but Mikkel Kessler has done nothing to warrant a rematch. He had chances to fight fighters like Edison Miranda ETC. But decided to waste this whole year fighting nobodies.
Kessler in most international observers' eyes gave Joe a closer fight than Hopkins did. Most international observers see Hopkins wining 1-3 rounds, whle most agree that Kessler won 3-6 rounds (rounds 1-5 + round 12). If Kessler was American there would probably be a unanimous cry for a rematch and most US media would see it as a robbery (although the rest of the world would still see it as close but no robbery at all). Now, some American fans even try to make the Hopkins fight seem close eventhough that wasn;t nearly as competitive
If anyone believes that then there insane, it was an easy win for Joe Calzaghe. I don't care what some idiots think, they can't score a fight if they scored it that way.
Bernard Hopkins vs Joe Calzaghe was much closer and i personally had Bernard Hopkins winning based on the knockdown. He landed the cleaner more effective shots, and Joe Calzaghe could never get going with his offense.
The argument for a Kessler rematch shouldnt be that Kessler's fight was closer,in all honesty I had the Hopkins fight for Bernard just on cleaner shots,the argument should be that Kessler was hurt for the first one.
Joe obviously won that fight,but he was fighting a one handed opponent.
Being an American with no stake in the first Calzeghe Kessler,Joe won the fight,but to settle it once and for all there should be a rematch, because of the injury.
Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
I would love to see a rematch. The first fight was outstanding.
Re: Calzaghe camp opens up for Kessler battle
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Trainer Monkey
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leftylee number 1 groupie
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jangeorg
Kessler in most international observers' eyes gave Joe a closer fight than Hopkins did. Most international observers see Hopkins wining 1-3 rounds, whle most agree that Kessler won 3-6 rounds (rounds 1-5 + round 12). If Kessler was American there would probably be a unanimous cry for a rematch and most US media would see it as a robbery (although the rest of the world would still see it as close but no robbery at all). Now, some American fans even try to make the Hopkins fight seem close eventhough that wasn;t nearly as competitive
If anyone believes that then there insane, it was an easy win for Joe Calzaghe. I don't care what some idiots think, they can't score a fight if they scored it that way.
Bernard Hopkins vs Joe Calzaghe was much closer and i personally had Bernard Hopkins winning based on the knockdown. He landed the cleaner more effective shots, and Joe Calzaghe could never get going with his offense.
The argument for a Kessler rematch shouldnt be that Kessler's fight was closer,in all honesty I had the Hopkins fight for Bernard just on cleaner shots,the argument should be that Kessler was hurt for the first one.
Joe obviously won that fight,but he was fighting a one handed opponent.
Being an American with no stake in the first Calzeghe Kessler,Joe won the fight,but to settle it once and for all there should be a rematch, because of the injury.
Well I think it is true that Kessler was injuried but, then he should have pulled put of the fight instead of collecting a payday and take the piss on most of his fans, that being said, I enjoy to see Kessler fight.
I dont think you deserve a new fight unless you get injuried during the fight, and that was not the case here.
PS I would love to see Kessler-Calzaghe one more time, but I doubt that the rest of the world is ......