Berto wins...learns something new and moves on up the ladder.
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Berto wins...learns something new and moves on up the ladder.
This is not a done deal yet.
Dan Rafael just posted this in his chat.
Dan Rafael: (12:20 PM ET ) Personally, I do think it's too soon for Berto. That said, that fight is by no means a done deal. There are huge problems with it and there's a good chance it won't happen from what DiBella was telling me last night. King won't allow Berto to skip past Collazo and wants Berto to give up his belt if he takes the Mosley fight. berto and his team don't want to do that. They also aren't making a ton of money for the Mosley fight so the risk may be too high considering the reward. There are problems. HBO is putting the pressure on to make the fight but I am a little skeptical at the moment.
Mosley cant win this fight IMO. I duno why he keeps choosing the hardest options at this stage in his career . He should be looking for the right opponents at the right time like Floyd.
Shane is going to get his ass kicked, I can remember the last time he fought someone faster than him if ever. Also Berto is the better classical boxer, and he loves to mix it up as well. The only chance Shane has is if he can hurt Berto, and his best punch his looping right hand seems to land a lot against Berto, well as much as any punch does at least. Also Berto has a way faster jab than Cotto, and Cotto's gave MOsley a hell of a lot of problems, also Berto has a better right hand than Cotto which landed at will as well.
More slowly he's 25/26 now. Berto needs to step it up, Mayweather was like 21-22 when he won his first title, Oscar was young, Roy was younger, etc, etc. Berto to reach his potential needs to start fighting legit opponents STAT.Quote:
Originally Posted by bcollins
I'd agree with that - but he does look like he has the potential to be an elite. I think that's what has a lot of people looking twice at him, myself included. I still think he should have been brought along a little more slowly, but he's on the stage now. Throw him in the deep end, and let's see if he can swim!Quote:
Originally Posted by uptoscratchExcept that time he couldn't fight PBF because he had a toothache or whatever it was. Then as soon as Floyd had the bigger name and became a PPV cash machine, Mosley starts calling him out and his fans in the press start claiming that Mayweather was ducking him.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Still, it's a great matchup. Mosley UD. I don't know what it is about Berto -- he just doesn't look like an elite fighter.
I like Berto's chances, and I think this is a great matchup for him, win, lose, or draw. He'll learn a lot in the ring with SSM.
I think most would agree that he needs to step up his competition; the question is whether Mosley is too big of a step when the toughest opponent of your career is Steve Forbes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
But it probably makes more sense for Berto to take a chance fighting an old Mosley rather than a Clottey or Kermit Cintron or somebody like that. Those type guys would be almost as big a risk, without the same reward of having Mosley's name on your record.
I was just about to post that. Personally, I would rather see Mosley fight Williams (assuming Paul gets past Verno). Collazo is a better step up for Berto right now; Mosley may be a little too much for him at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Ds Next Baby Mama
I would think that Judah is a possibility as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClubberLangI was just about to post that. Personally, I would rather see Mosley fight Williams (assuming Paul gets past Verno). Collazo is a better step up for Berto right now; Mosley may be a little too much for him at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Ds Next Baby Mama
I always wanted Berto to stop fighting no names. He fought Forbes and I was at least like "Ok I know who he is." Shane may be old but is in now way a gimme fight. Hopefully Berto just keeps stepping up his competition. I see Berto winning this one by decision but I NEVER count Mosley out.
I feel like people gave Shane more of a chance against Margo. Wonder Why?
Because they aren't very knowlegable? Who would have Mosley beating Margarito, the style matchup is horrible for him, Mosley needs to be able to put his imprint on his opponent to be successful, and there is no way he would do that against Margarito who just keeps on throwing, Mosley has way too many defensive liabilities.
People forget it is mostly Mosley's athletic ability that got him to where he is, his skill level has never been on the same level as guys like Mayweather, Hopkins, Jones, Whitaker, Dela Hoya, Wright, etc. I think this fight will prove Berto is well on his way, and that Mosley isn't a true tactician, he is a great athlete who wasn't taught how to box properly.
Very Good match-up.
Mosley not what he was while Berto is still developing as a fighter.
Berto win.
One on an elevator going up; the other on one going down. Always a dangerous intersection for the older guy (unless your name is Hopkins). Still, this would be a great matchup if it is made.
Very big step going from Forbes to Mosely. This will be a competitive fight but I think Mosely is too much for Berto. Berto's chin will get a real test.
I think Mosley has much more left as opposed to what Berto has at this point coming In vs. top tier guys.Berto has youth,speed of hand,quick positioning and a huge push in promotion....But I think Mosley can catch and hurt Berto, impose HUGE experience disparity in tough spots.....Imo.....I think Mosley knocks Berto out :-X
Steve Forbes made him think a few times if he could punch he could have KO'd him i think your going to be upset when shane KO's him if your a Berto fan;);DQuote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceKO? Man, I can see Mosley winning, but by KO? What elite or even semi-elite fighter has he knocked out in the last 5+ years? Berto is faster, bigger and has shown he can dig down deep when necessary. I think Berto wins by decision and Mosley takes some shots that might have kayoed other guys. I think Mosley has one of the best chins in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragos Bitch