Who is (or was) your favorite "stalk, stun and close" type of guy?

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Another good stalker was Holmes,he'd just follow that relentless jab of his,and you,all over the ring.
His fights might not have been exciting but you have to admit they were efficient

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Well said bud & never more evident than when he broke Gerry Cooney up systematically .... Holmes was up there with the best at doing the stalk & break ya kinda thing...

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Mike McCallum
Marco Antonio Barrera
Marvin Hagler

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Originally Posted by holmcall

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Good call Bro !!! & add to that Don Curry ... until he was found out, but as a fan & at his peak Leonard was awesome to watch when getting some one on the go....

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Leonard was the ultimate closer and when he did his kill, he no longer had a baby face. He was stone cold ruthless in there. He was my all-time favorite.

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I remember him taking out our own Dave Boy Green with as clinical a ko combo as Ive ever seen, after he had softened him up..

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Did the same with Bruce Finch and Donny LaLonde. Scary KOs. He was a killer in there with the power he could generate with his uncommon hand speed.

Stalking? I'd go with Joe Frazier, maybe Qawi second. Always moving forward and that head movement.

Sugar Ray Leonard was a great closer people forgot how much power that guy had at welterweight he could really bang that and his speed made him a guy that was closes thing to a perfect fighter he had it all and could do it all he could box, brawl he had the strengh, speed, reflexs, chin and was very mentally tough he earned the right to have the name suger and not to many people can say that they deserved that name he could and it while be a while till there is a fighter that was like him maybe never.

Hmmm... I thought about this for a while, and for some reason the name Tony Ayala Jr kept coming to mind, particularly the stalking, stunning, and closing part. He was badass. Unfortunately he was also badass outside of the ring.

I liked all the SRL mentions. Another thing about him was, he could take a punch. You hurt the man, and he would come back strong.

I wouldn't class SRL as a stalker who come forward he was mostly a boxer who boxed on the backfoot. He only become the stalker against Thomas Hearns, because he had too because he was getting outboxed. The fighters i mentioned were always coming forward and stalking while picking there shots beautifully. The term "Stalker" does not apply to SRL at all.

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Originally Posted by ICB

I wouldn't class SRL as a stalker who come forward he was mostly a boxer who boxed on the backfoot. He only become the stalker against Thomas Hearns, because he had too because he was getting outboxed. The fighters i mentioned were always coming forward and stalking while picking there shots beautifully. The term "Stalker" does not apply to SRL at all.

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I thought he had to stalk Hearns when Hearns got up on his bycicle after being stunned by Leonard mid fight. Stalked him the rest of the fight, even though Hearns was probably out boxing him. Moved in and finished when he had to. Leonard could really raise his game when he needed to.

But right, yeah, that wasn't his main style, only when he had to or when his opponent was running, then he could stalk with the best of them.

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by ICB

I wouldn't class SRL as a stalker who come forward he was mostly a boxer who boxed on the backfoot. He only become the stalker against Thomas Hearns, because he had too because he was getting outboxed. The fighters i mentioned were always coming forward and stalking while picking there shots beautifully. The term "Stalker" does not apply to SRL at all.

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I thought he had to stalk Hearns when Hearns got up on his bycicle after being stunned by Leonard mid fight. Stalked him the rest of the fight, even though Hearns was probably out boxing him. Moved in and finished when he had to. Leonard could really raise his game when he needed to.

But right, yeah, that wasn't his main style, only when he had to or when his opponent was running, then he could stalk with the best of them.

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Thats exactly what i said in my previous post, SRL had to stalk Thomas Hearns because he had to. Because he was losing, and even in the two fights with Thomas Hearns when he had to stalk. He didn't constantly do it, he boxed atleast 50 percent in both fights.

Like i said i really don't know what SRL has to do with this thread personally, just because he was a great fighter doesn't mean he was one of the best stalking/come forward fights. He only stalked when he had to in the 2 fights with Thomas Hearns, and like i said earlier that wasn't his normal style he was forced to fight that way. 90 percent of the time he boxed using his footwork.

the fighters i chose like Marvin Hagler, Marco Antonio Barrera, Mike McCallum, are perfect candidates for this thread. They constantly stalked there opponents picking there shots, and they were like hunters waiting to pounce on there prey, when they made one mistake.

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by ICB

I wouldn't class SRL as a stalker who come forward he was mostly a boxer who boxed on the backfoot. He only become the stalker against Thomas Hearns, because he had too because he was getting outboxed. The fighters i mentioned were always coming forward and stalking while picking there shots beautifully. The term "Stalker" does not apply to SRL at all.

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I thought he had to stalk Hearns when Hearns got up on his bycicle after being stunned by Leonard mid fight. Stalked him the rest of the fight, even though Hearns was probably out boxing him. Moved in and finished when he had to. Leonard could really raise his game when he needed to.

But right, yeah, that wasn't his main style, only when he had to or when his opponent was running, then he could stalk with the best of them.

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Thats exactly what i said in my previous post, SRL had to stalk Thomas Hearns because he had to. Because he was losing, and even in both fights with Thomas Hearns when he had to stalk. He didn't constantly do it, he boxed atleast 50 percent in both fights.

Like i said i really don't know what SRL has to do with this thread personally, just because he was a great fighter doesn't mean he was on the best stalking/come forward fights.

90 percent of the time he boxed using his footwork, the fights i chose like Marvin Hagler, Marco Antonio Barrera, Mike McCallum, are perfect candidates for this thread.

They constantly stalked there opponents picking there shots, and they were like hunters waiting to pounce on there opponents, when they made one mistake.

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OK, well I don't mean to split hairs, but I thought you said he stalked Hearns because Hearns was outboxing him. I said he stalked Hearns because Hearns went on his bicycle after being hurt, and Hearns still outboxed him while he was being stalked, for most of the whole 2nd half of the fight. Until Leonard moved in for the kill. Bit of a difference. Now if you are saying that's not how the fight went, then i'll have to go back and take a 2nd look.

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I thought he had to stalk Hearns when Hearns got up on his bycicle after being stunned by Leonard mid fight. Stalked him the rest of the fight, even though Hearns was probably out boxing him. Moved in and finished when he had to. Leonard could really raise his game when he needed to.

But right, yeah, that wasn't his main style, only when he had to or when his opponent was running, then he could stalk with the best of them.

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Thats exactly what i said in my previous post, SRL had to stalk Thomas Hearns because he had to. Because he was losing, and even in both fights with Thomas Hearns when he had to stalk. He didn't constantly do it, he boxed atleast 50 percent in both fights.

Like i said i really don't know what SRL has to do with this thread personally, just because he was a great fighter doesn't mean he was on the best stalking/come forward fights.

90 percent of the time he boxed using his footwork, the fights i chose like Marvin Hagler, Marco Antonio Barrera, Mike McCallum, are perfect candidates for this thread.

They constantly stalked there opponents picking there shots, and they were like hunters waiting to pounce on there opponents, when they made one mistake.

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OK, well I don't mean to split hairs, but I thought you said he stalked Hearns because Hearns was outboxing him. I said he stalked Hearns because Hearns went on his bicycle after being hurt, and Hearns still outboxed him while he was being stalked, for most of the whole 2nd half of the fight. Until Leonard moved in for the kill. Bit of a difference. Now if you are saying that's not how the fight went, then i'll have to go back and take a 2nd look.

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I haven't seen the fight in awhile but from what i remember, Thomas Hearns outboxed SRL from long range as SRL struggled to get inside while using movement in the first 4 rounds. Then SRL decided to stay flat footed and punch and he did have Thomas Hearns in trouble in the 5th round if i remember rightly.

I don't think Thomas Hearns really changed his tactics after being hurt, he was doing what he was from round 1 and that was using his superior reach. To outbox SRL from the outside, now this is the point in the fight im struggling to remember.

Im pretty sure SRL become the stalker after that and won a few rounds, then Thomas Hearns seemed to adjust to the style. And i believe SRL went back to boxing for another round or 2, then when Angel Dundee gave SRL his famous speech "Your blowing it son".

SRL went out there like a man possessed and hurt Thomas Hearns badly in the 13th, then stopped him in the 14th round with a barrage of punches.

The 2nd fight was pretty similar to the first first except for the knockdowns, with SRL using 50 percent boxing/stalking. But everytime he boxed he clearly got dominated, i don't know why he just didn't stick with stalking in the 2nd fight.

Because he was clearly having his best moments when he stalked. And he almost had Thomas Hearns out of there in the 5th and 12th rounds.

Lot of you muthafukkas don't know or don't remember Orzubek Nazarov. He was a great stalker.

Fernando Montiel is turning into a very good stalker.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Lot of you muthafukkas don't know or don't remember Orzubek Nazarov. He was a great stalker.

Fernando Montiel is turning into a very good stalker.

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Montiel...Nice! Would have loved Mosley Vs. Gussie at Light.

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Originally Posted by No Contest

Stalking? I'd go with Joe Frazier, maybe Qawi second. Always moving forward and that head movement.

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FORGOT ABOUT Qawi. GOOD ONE!

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I wouldn't class SRL as a stalker who come forward he was mostly a boxer who boxed on the backfoot. He only become the stalker against Thomas Hearns, because he had too because he was getting outboxed. The fighters i mentioned were always coming forward and stalking while picking there shots beautifully. The term "Stalker" does not apply to SRL at all.

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I thought he had to stalk Hearns when Hearns got up on his bycicle after being stunned by Leonard mid fight. Stalked him the rest of the fight, even though Hearns was probably out boxing him. Moved in and finished when he had to. Leonard could really raise his game when he needed to.

But right, yeah, that wasn't his main style, only when he had to or when his opponent was running, then he could stalk with the best of them.

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Thats exactly what i said in my previous post, SRL had to stalk Thomas Hearns because he had to. Because he was losing, and even in the two fights with Thomas Hearns when he had to stalk. He didn't constantly do it, he boxed atleast 50 percent in both fights.

Like i said i really don't know what SRL has to do with this thread personally, just because he was a great fighter doesn't mean he was one of the best stalking/come forward fights. He only stalked when he had to in the 2 fights with Thomas Hearns, and like i said earlier that wasn't his normal style he was forced to fight that way. 90 percent of the time he boxed using his footwork.

the fighters i chose like Marvin Hagler, Marco Antonio Barrera, Mike McCallum, are perfect candidates for this thread. They constantly stalked there opponents picking there shots, and they were like hunters waiting to pounce on there prey, when they made one mistake.

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Maybe closer would be a better way to say it. But he stalked Finch and LaLonde both.