Vernon Forrest on Paul Williams - Is this a duck or is it valid?

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Originally Posted by CFH

"I'm a little more advanced than Paul Williams at this stage of the game. I think I've earned the right to have a super fight. Me fighting Paul Williams is not a super fight, it's a fight. Therefore, I'm not interested. I'm interested in being part of a huge event, like the one coming up with De La Hoya and Pacquiao. That's a huge boxing event. I'd like to be a part of something like that."

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I can't see anyone like ODH taking a fight with Forrest, he's not much of a draw. Apparently they were negotiating with Pavlik but that fell through, luckily for Vernon.

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No not a duck...Forrest is really not that type but with that being said...

Forrest is at the tail end of his career and he knows it...He was plauged by one thing or another over the last few years...He is looking for one big name fight with a huge payday...has been for a while now....If not for the shoulder he would have been on the elite list a long time ago and more then likely retired......

The injury robbed him of his best years as a fighter...Forrest was DAMN!! good...his only real faulter in his prime was underestimating Mayorga first time out and getting Starched big...Rematch was shaky because he was trying too hard not to get caught again but after he had his confidence back despite the loss.....

Vernon has been put in some crappy situations and now father time has caught up with him...He does not want to use what he has left to fight a younger strong fighter that will not produce a big payday

Even though Forrest himself is no draw but he is trying to maximize....

Business on his behalf but not a duck in the sense of being scared

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Forrest is shot. Williams would beat his ass. And Forrest knows it. Which is why he won't fight him

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Agreed. He knows Paul will retire him like he did to Verno.

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Not so sure about this I guess:confused: Surely Williams would be a deserved favourite in this fight but I could definetly see Vernon doing really well if he moves and uses his reach... He is a bunch slicker than Paul Williams. I would pick a prime Vernon Forrest to win this fight all day and think he could still do it.

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Forrest now I am if about...depends on how he comes out...he would need to come out aggressive and let Williams know at once he will not be bullied or out muscled...Though Paul would be the favorite...

Agreed about a prime Forrest I take him everyday and twice on sunday

Vernon needs to fight a tougher fight to get his big fight. Would be a good fight, but I think Williams workrate would be too much and Vernon will wear down. Theres all of a sudden alot of nice matchups available in LMW. Maybe a fight with Sergio Martinez?

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by ClubberLang

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk will be a good fight for Williams at 154...
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As the interim WBO title holder, Williams is the mandatory challenger for Sergei, so they could fight next. On the other hand, Dzindziruk probably does not have a single fan anywhere in the U.S.A., so the TV networks might not be interested which would kill the fight.

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However, in Germany...this fight would be huge.

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Yep hope Williams is willing to go to Germany...
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The term ducking is used way way too much, if i don't fight you yesterday then i'm scared and i'm ducking geeeeezussss, is this the same forrest who said this same garbage before he lost to mora the first time ?? Paul williams is damn near challenging guys at super heavyweight but he too scared to fight forrest ?? If vernon wants to fight williams then great fight him, but this you're ducking me crap from a majority of the guys in this sport both boxer and fans is getting old.

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by ClubberLang

As the interim WBO title holder, Williams is the mandatory challenger for Sergei, so they could fight next. On the other hand, Dzindziruk probably does not have a single fan anywhere in the U.S.A., so the TV networks might not be interested which would kill the fight.

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However, in Germany...this fight would be huge.

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Yep hope Williams is willing to go to Germany...
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Actually, I think I read that Sergei was not really that big of a draw even in boxing crazed Germany. I believe only 3000 attended his fight with Julio if I remember correctly (I could be confusing this with someone else, so correct me if I'm wrong). Plus, the key is going to be TV interest. I can't see the Williams camp taking a fight that HBO or Showtime won't air the way Julio did. And, as the mandatory challenger, Williams can sort of dictate the terms because if Sergei refuses to come to the US, then it goes to a purse bid, which Gossen would likely win. If Sergei refused to oblige, he would be stripped of the title and Williams could fight someone else for the vacant belt. It all depends on what the Williams camp wants to do. I am certain they will try to find a bigger name first (or least a name more recognizable to U.S. fans).

Is Forrest nuts? The only fight of interest to anyone is against Williams, he blew his chance of fighting DLH when he lost to Mayorga plain and simple.
Williams is the man Vernon, now stop crying and start fighting !

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk will be a good fight for Williams at 154...
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damn i forgot about Sergei. That would be a good fight but i would stil favor Paul.