That's assuming he wants to continue to abuse his body at 35 years of age, instead of sitting back and letting other people do that for him to earn his money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
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That's assuming he wants to continue to abuse his body at 35 years of age, instead of sitting back and letting other people do that for him to earn his money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
Salty is right, he didn't try anything different at all.
What was Beristain saying in the corner?
I said to my friends after the third round "Oscar's not trying".
I felt that sort of frustration when he was fighting Floyd, and at some stages he was executing a winning game plan, and then without much pressure from Floyd, he would just drop the game plan and not execute anything... Tonight I mean, he did absolutely nothing at all. He didn't have the arsenal to knock over a dead cow... You would think he would at least throw a bit more..Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
I felt the same with with Jones in his later fights.. If he threw some punches he could have turned the fights, as well as take something off the offense of their opponent.. But an opponent who isn't fighting back isn't hard to beat... A good defense really does need to be a good offense.. Or at least, ANY offense.. And the fact he offered little if ANY offense tonight pretty much secured his fate regardless of what Manny did...
It's frustrating as hell watching a fighter not fight back.. But obviously mentally he was done...
The virtual billionaire - Oscar - intentionally got himself humiliated and battered so in the future he could make money :beat:
Dude get off his back, shit i was seriously impartial in this fight, but thought do to boxing ability alone, DLH was gonna win, I give Pacquiao all the credit in the world cause he overcame all the odds, but don't fucking kid yourself, just like the guys on ESPN said, Oscar didn't look right, his legs were gone from the get go, i dunno why so much hate on the dude, he's fulfilled with puttin on great fights a good 95% of the time, win or lose, he's been through wars against the top in the buisness, and yet you can't get off his back, you bitch and moan about payin $55, but i doubt that The Golden Boy put a gun to your head and said pay this shit now or i blow your block off, honestly guys like you are whats dragging the sport down, guys that kick fighters when they're down, especially when they clearly don't have it anymore, not the promotersQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Greig
If ODH threw that fight I have more respect for him than ever. That's one tough bastard to take a beating like that willingly. Not to mention the embarrassment. I think he was overtrained based upon the weight and the fact he was flat from the get go. Pac looked great but ODH looked weak and slow from the start.
I don't think ODH is tough enough or thick skinned enough to take that beating on purpose. And the public humiliation to top it off.:confused:
I think Oscar has been shot for years. That's why he fought only once or twice a year and lets face it the only guys he beat since losing to Hopkins weren't exactly top shelf material. He just became a whore and sold his ass to the highest bidder.
He was the smaller guy mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
Im sure I heard that he came into the ring less than Manny if the commentators are to be belived.
I agree in he didnt give it his all.
I said on another thread check his knees out and you can see fear and uncertainty in his movment from quite early on.
As soon as he tasted the type of power he didnt expect he changed his mind I think and went back to basics to see if he could work something out ,but basics don't work as a spring board with someone like Manny moving every way imaginable in front of you.
His footwork and balance looked terrible from the outgo, manny was able to turn and hit him while he fumbled around a 90 degree turn. He's never had the quickest footwork, but that almost looked like new guys learing footwork in there. Maybe it was just a terrible matchup for him. Either way we will never know, but it was rather dissapointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreHe was the smaller guy mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
Im sure I heard that he came into the ring less than Manny if the commentators are to be belived.
I agree in he didnt give it his all.
I said on another thread check his knees out and you can see fear and uncertainty in his movment from quite early on.
As soon as he tasted the type of power he didnt expect he changed his mind I think and went back to basics to see if he could work something out ,but basics don't work as a spring board with someone like Manny moving every way imaginable in front of you.
Haven't watched the fight so can't comment.
but to be honest i aint supprised :rolleyes:
ODLH = Promoter
Pac = has the biggest fan base in the sport
Hatton = has the second biggest fan base in the sport
so a hatton match up with pac is far more sellable now after last nights win and a massive moneymaker :rolleyes:
don't you just love this sport :(
but then hey i always thought DLH held back against Mayweather to sell a rematch.
He's a professional boxer, he's used to the abuse. There's no way he'd quit on his stool in the humiliating way he did for money. Surely if he's as greedy as people make out he would have tried to beat Pac to get $$$'s fighting Hatton...Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyThat's assuming he wants to continue to abuse his body at 35 years of age, instead of sitting back and letting other people do that for him to earn his money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
ODLH is a richer man if he beats Pac!
Past it, yes. Weight drained, yes. Ending your career like that for money? NO WAY!
not if you add a possible Pac mayweather match to the mix ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
Yeah, I heard that Oscar weighed less than Pac on fight night too but I don't believe it - Oscar looked much bigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreHe was the smaller guy mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
Im sure I heard that he came into the ring less than Manny if the commentators are to be belived.
I agree in he didnt give it his all.
I said on another thread check his knees out and you can see fear and uncertainty in his movment from quite early on.
As soon as he tasted the type of power he didnt expect he changed his mind I think and went back to basics to see if he could work something out ,but basics don't work as a spring board with someone like Manny moving every way imaginable in front of you.
I'm glad you agree with me that he didn't give everything he had. I just felt that he didn't really fire a shot. Get angry, get mean. I found his performance spiritless.
And the fight's ending was unsatisfying to me. I mean, Oscar practically bounced off his stool to go congratulate Pac Man.
That's kind of a contradiction, if Hatton and Pac have the combined biggest fan base in the sport then that fight doesn't need any selling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
All Pac had to do was prove his credentials fighting a credible interim opponent at 140 and that fight would have been just as sellable.
ODLH then wouldn't have had to humiliate himself in the process
True, but that's not as financially rewarding for ODLH as a Mayweather rematch hough is it? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddonot if you add a possible Pac mayweather match to the mix ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
It was the body shots in the early round followed by so many hits in the face that made DLH hesitant to attack Pac.:cool:
It's clear that Pac's speed is so much against DLH. DLH was not overtrained neither did he rigged the fight. PAc was just absolutely superior. Pac's flexibility and speed would make anybody very slow.:cool: