Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
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hattonthehammer
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Pugilistic
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hattonthehammer
no.....no.....no
Mikkel has proved time and time again he is clever enough to beat technical masters of the game through workrate and movement.
I wanna see him in with a genuine big puncher thats gonna come to fight rather than look to win a 12round decision!!!
Who has he beat that was a techincal master ?? It isn't Calzaghe because Joe won.
So i guess it's Mundine who always loses whenever he steps up.
kessler actually came out of the calzaghe fight with more than enough credibility.
Taking 4-5rounds off of calzaghe is NOT an easy thing to do and although he got outworked towards the end he was well in the fight because of his ability to not allow calzaghe to get his shots off.
How anyone would think Wright could potentially win this fight is beyond me!!
Kessler takes a unanimous 10 rounds to 2 decision!!
When has anyone ever beat Winky clearly ??
I think Kessler would win but it would be close and i wouldn't count out Wright winning.
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
really not sure about this one for Kess, he should beat an inactive Wright, but theres a chance this could be a bit like Pavlik-Hopkins, can't see Wright hurting him but he sure as hell has the ability to frustrate him...
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
Listen: it is definitely a step in the right direction for Kessler after his last two fights.
Kessler may be too big for Winkie. Upon first glance, I favor Kessler.
Am I the only one who wanted to see Kessler fight Bhop, which I thought Calzaghe had provoked in his post Jones Jr. press conference?
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Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
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Rantcatrat
Listen: it is definitely a step in the right direction for Kessler after his last two fights.
Kessler may be too big for Winkie. Upon first glance, I favor Kessler.
Am I the only one who wanted to see Kessler fight Bhop, which I thought Calzaghe had provoked in his post Jones Jr. press conference?
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I would like to see Kessler fight Hopkins.
Kessler would like to fight Hopkins.
But Kessler's promotor doesn't............ and after Hopkins last performance i don't blame him.
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
This is a matchup I wouldn't have predicted. Why is Winky fighting a massive super middleweight after a massive layoff?
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
If Winky had been more active I would give him serious chance with his jab and defense, but at his age and being on the shelf for so long, it is hard to see him beating Kessler, who throws straight punches right up the gut which should penetrate Winky's turtle shell style defense. I can't see anyone knocking Winky out, but I suspect he gets busted up in a wide UD if the fight happens.
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
This to me is a dumb fight for Kessler. Very high risk and NO reward. What would be the deal if Kessler beat Winky. Well you beat up on an old Winky right with a long layoff and no one really want's to fight you still so just sit in limbo some more. If he loses my god Kessler was just another plodder with a decent punch. It would be better if Kessler lost then they would pin Pavlik against him. Which to me would be a good fight. Kessler do us a favor say no and hunt Jermain Taylor or Carl Froch down and challenge them.
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
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piye
Winky has all the boxing ability in the world but I expect he will be rusty! If not expect him to give Kessler a boxing lesson as No one could really hurt or break through the defense of a prime Winky.
I'm in with you PIYE. I would think Winky would be able to win this fight by UD but the ring rust will throw a big wrench in the mix.
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hattonthehammer
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Pugilistic
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hattonthehammer
no.....no.....no
Mikkel has proved time and time again he is clever enough to beat technical masters of the game through workrate and movement.
I wanna see him in with a genuine big puncher thats gonna come to fight rather than look to win a 12round decision!!!
Who has he beat that was a techincal master ?? It isn't Calzaghe because Joe won.
So i guess it's Mundine who always loses whenever he steps up.
kessler actually came out of the calzaghe fight with more than enough credibility.
Taking 4-5rounds off of calzaghe is NOT an easy thing to do and although he got outworked towards the end he was well in the fight because of his ability to not allow calzaghe to get his shots off.
How anyone would think Wright could potentially win this fight is beyond me!!
Kessler takes a unanimous 10 rounds to 2 decision!!
Which "technical masters" has Kessler beaten "time and time again?"
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
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The Fightfan
This to me is a dumb fight for Kessler. Very high risk and NO reward. What would be the deal if Kessler beat Winky. Well you beat up on an old Winky right with a long layoff and no one really want's to fight you still so just sit in limbo some more. If he loses my god Kessler was just another plodder with a decent punch. It would be better if Kessler lost then they would pin Pavlik against him. Which to me would be a good fight. Kessler do us a favor say no and hunt Jermain Taylor or Carl Froch down and challenge them.
Not that you don't already know this, you probably do, but I think the idea is to get Kessler exposure on american television. Networks will put Winkie on TV. Then, Kessler's following increases and they next pit him against the Taylor/Froch winner in a PPV. Winkie is HOF and marketable.
Don't get me wrong, Bhop may have been a better match, but maybe Kessler's people thought it was too risky.
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I don't see the point in Bhop at all, whether the fight could be made or not.
There's far too many fights to be made at 168 so no point in Kess moving up to fight Bhop.
As with all non US fighters though US TV exposure is critical. Kessler needs it and aside from Taylor I think Winky is one of the very few that can give him that. From a purely boxing standpoint fighting Winky is a no win situation for Kess, but from a finacial/exposure standpoint it makes perfect sense.
I just hope Kess doesn't underestimate Winky and assume he'll be no good due to age and inacticity.
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
I think a better fight for Kessler would be a Miranda match, it would be a fairly exciting name and make Mikkel look like Sugar Ray in comparison;D
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ross
I think a better fight for Kessler would be a Miranda match, it would be a fairly exciting name and make Mikkel look like Sugar Ray in comparison;D
Crap fight if you ask me mate.
Kessler will get exposed by anyone decent.
Andrade & Mundine aren't decent.
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
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The Fightfan
This to me is a dumb fight for Kessler. Very high risk and NO reward. What would be the deal if Kessler beat Winky. Well you beat up on an old Winky right with a long layoff and no one really want's to fight you still so just sit in limbo some more. If he loses my god Kessler was just another plodder with a decent punch. It would be better if Kessler lost then they would pin Pavlik against him. Which to me would be a good fight. Kessler do us a favor say no and hunt Jermain Taylor or Carl Froch down and challenge them.
i would much rather see him fight winky than another bullshit mandatory. i really doubt he would even go near Taylor its like he doesnt know they exist if he doesnt fight a top 5 SMW in his next fight i would lose all interest in him. Hell i wouldnt even mind him fighting Bika.
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Rantcatrat
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The Fightfan
This to me is a dumb fight for Kessler. Very high risk and NO reward. What would be the deal if Kessler beat Winky. Well you beat up on an old Winky right with a long layoff and no one really want's to fight you still so just sit in limbo some more. If he loses my god Kessler was just another plodder with a decent punch. It would be better if Kessler lost then they would pin Pavlik against him. Which to me would be a good fight. Kessler do us a favor say no and hunt Jermain Taylor or Carl Froch down and challenge them.
Not that you don't already know this, you probably do, but I think the idea is to get Kessler exposure on american television. Networks will put Winkie on TV. Then, Kessler's following increases and they next pit him against the Taylor/Froch winner in a PPV. Winkie is HOF and marketable.
Don't get me wrong, Bhop may have been a better match, but maybe Kessler's people thought it was too risky.
[This rant is not directly aimed at the quoted posts]
First of all Winky is not a gimme fight. I fancy Kessler's chances (mostly because of size and Winky's layoff), but it would be a good win and arguably the best in Kessler's career (depending on how Winky looks). It would also be a better win than Froch, although Froch's stock is certainly on the rise.
Second, people are way overrating Kessler's marketability. No way Kessler-Froch is PPV in the US. Hell, there is not even a way that Taylor-Kessler gets to PPV. Also, Kessler has publicly stated on numerous occasions that they would like Bhop, but why should Bhop fight him? Kessler is simply not marketable not for the risk he brings. If Kessler beats Winky and looks good in the process - on HBO no less - surely he will have a hell of lot better bargaining position.
Third, it always frustrates me when people argue that fighters are better merely due to more US exposure. Like how Bika is great (hey, he won The Contender), while Mundine is apparently not even decent, and (unknown in the US) euro fighters by definition crap. If people dont know fighters, then they should not be capable of dismissing them sight unseen.
Re: Kessler_Wright in the works
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Pugilistic
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hattonthehammer
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Who has he beat that was a techincal master ?? It isn't Calzaghe because Joe won.
So i guess it's Mundine who always loses whenever he steps up.
kessler actually came out of the calzaghe fight with more than enough credibility.
Taking 4-5rounds off of calzaghe is NOT an easy thing to do and although he got outworked towards the end he was well in the fight because of his ability to not allow calzaghe to get his shots off.
How anyone would think Wright could potentially win this fight is beyond me!!
Kessler takes a unanimous 10 rounds to 2 decision!!
When has anyone ever beat Winky clearly ??
I think Kessler would win but it would be close and i wouldn't count out Wright winning.
you never see winky fight velazquez then????
