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mark my words mma or ufc will NEVER have anything on boxing NEVER. i dont care what ppl say ufc and mma might be big now but its gonna die out. boxing has bin around for hundreds of years and is better 2 watch and is more of an art. dont get me wrong ufc is fucking hardddd those guys r tuff and can fight but boxing will allways be 1-0 allways
Do you realize that MMA has been around alot longer than Queensbury rules boxing??? Its Orgins span across the globe from actual Combat roots from various counties for means of survival... Its the truest form of fighting there is, minus weapons...Quote:
Originally Posted by W1NKY
These Disciplines of Martial Arts have been around for centuries... MMA isint going anywere dude.
You reckon arlovski has the better chin? Im pretty sure Brewster, Sandersand Purrity are bigger and better punchers than Viacheslav Datsik ;D
Well it is the sport of stereotypes....middle class white guys with tribal tatoos who love GNC and have anger issues for no good reason...that describes the majority of fighters and fans of the "sport" known as Mixed Martial Arts.Quote:
Originally Posted by hardcore_crash
I don't think this dude will be any different than anyone else switching between MMA and Boxing. Either way it shouldn't be done, boxers don't deal with kicking very well and MMA fighters can't punch worth a damn and their defense is horrible....just watch Chuck Lidell-Rampage Jackson II....Lidell drops his hand and BANG right cross and the Ice Man is ice cold...are you telling me a boxer wouldn't have done the same thing????
Defense is entirely different in MMA, if you hold your hands to high or get to preoccupied, you run the risk of getting taken down.. Boxing you are only concerned with punches from the waist up and from the front... MMA its free game... Also there are a lot of fighters emerging and being successful that dont fit that profile that you always allude to..Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleWell it is the sport of stereotypes....middle class white guys with tribal tatoos who love GNC and have anger issues for no good reason...that describes the majority of fighters and fans of the "sport" known as Mixed Martial Arts.Quote:
Originally Posted by hardcore_crash
I don't think this dude will be any different than anyone else switching between MMA and Boxing. Either way it shouldn't be done, boxers don't deal with kicking very well and MMA fighters can't punch worth a damn and their defense is horrible....just watch Chuck Lidell-Rampage Jackson II....Lidell drops his hand and BANG right cross and the Ice Man is ice cold...are you telling me a boxer wouldn't have done the same thing????
Below are some of the top fighters in MMA and consequently arent tattooed trailer park maniacs
Anderson Silva PFP#1 FIGHTER in combat sports(including Boxing)
Georges St Pierre
Fedor Emelianko
BJ Penn
Rashad Evans
Forrest Griffin
Mauricio Rua
Frank Mir... A few Tattoos(non tribal), but very gracious and articulate
And many more
I venture to say, I see plenty of boxers who have shitty trailer park tattoos as well, with dickhead personas
Oh yes the defense is entirely different in MMA. When boxers fight in MMA they usually lose when they fight guys that kick as they aren't used to blocking kicks, see Ray Mercer.
Sure there are boxers who have bad attitudes and tribal tatoos but boxing isn't marketed 100% to and for a specific type of person like MMA is. Just watch the commercials when The Ultimate Fighter is on.....don't blame me for calling the sport out on it, blame Dana White he's done it to the sport.
I can't stand watching MMA and welcome any of those guys who want to come over to boxing with open arms..
I like boxing as science and art.. MMA is a controlled street fight.. There is nothing artful, scientific, or glorious about a street fight.. Not to me anyway..
To the pompous ego maniacs that love MMA, I guess it's a different story.. But give me a sub-par Cricket or Tennis match over an MMA Title fight any day of the week.
MMA, UFC etc are just passing fads like wrestling or even the XFL.
Outside of america and asia these types of sports have very little following and boxing is still and always will however bad it ever gets as the main true combat sport.
Cant seriously see 20 years from now the likes of muhammed ali, sugar ray leonard and lennox lewis being replaced by kimbo slice or brock lesnar (these 2 are the only UFC fighters i know of and thats only thanks to youtube)
Wait a second,Im a middle class,and by appearance a white dude(which is funny because Im Cherokee and Polish,the German part got the eyes and the hair),I have tribal tattoos,I took and medaled and trophied in the martial arts,and I loathe MMAQuote:
Originally Posted by LyleWell it is the sport of stereotypes....middle class white guys with tribal tatoos who love GNC and have anger issues for no good reason...that describes the majority of fighters and fans of the "sport" known as Mixed Martial Arts.Quote:
Originally Posted by hardcore_crash
I don't think this dude will be any different than anyone else switching between MMA and Boxing. Either way it shouldn't be done, boxers don't deal with kicking very well and MMA fighters can't punch worth a damn and their defense is horrible....just watch Chuck Lidell-Rampage Jackson II....Lidell drops his hand and BANG right cross and the Ice Man is ice cold...are you telling me a boxer wouldn't have done the same thing????
Hey all stereotypes have their shortcomings....hell there are Republicans that aren't white but nobody ever talks about them
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Who is boxing marketed too????
What stereo type does a Ricky Hatton fan fit?
What stereo type does a Manny Pacquio fan fit?
ODH?
What's the point of stating who a fight is marketed too? Most fights are marketed somehow. You act like that's the only people in the crowd at mma fights. I have seen just as many athletes and actors ringside for UFC fights as boxing matches.
UFC is marketed to a certain demographic, if you don't see it then I can't help you buddy...Dana White has done it, it's why UFC is a viable company, it's also why The Ultimate Fighter has the same types of people in it year after year
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I didn't say I can't see it. I said what difference does it make? Fights are marketed to certain demographics. Bob Arum is constantly saying this fight is for "mexicans" or philipinos. A fighters fan base is usually a demographic, nationalistic is common in boxing. It just doesn't matter. It's not a reflection on the sport because of who it's marketed to, Spike tv is where most of the fights are televised and because it's a tv station targeted towards middleclass, middle age males, the sport of UFC is?????
Soleo Boxeo was on a spanish station. Does that mean boxing is targeted 100% towards mexicans?
Over the years i've consistently heard you bag on UFC cause of the demographic of who watches it. Dude, let it go. Your so bitter about it. Makes me think you lost a girlfriend to an mma guy or something. You've had a few years for those wounds to heal......let it go man.;)