Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
Another factor of the Pacquiao vs Marquez fight was that they are both so explosive. Margarito does the same thing over and over again at a slow pace, it is effective, but it doesn't look good. Cotto looks good, but he still doesn't have that exciting explosion when he moves in.
Both Pacquiao and Marquez are explosive and exciting, they didn't bow down to eachother's arsenals. They are both better than either Margarito and Cotto, IMO they both fought as hard as Margarito, and not like Cotto who gave up. Both of them put it all on the line.
Its like watching Gatti-Ward or Barrera-Morales. I would pick the second one every time. More skill, same drive and determination.
Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
Well Barrera-Morales was probably a more exciting fight regardless of skill level imo.
But no way Pac-Marquez was the FOTY imo I didn't find it to be a particulary great fight but to me it just wasn't enough action. And Margarito-Cotto had way more then just one momentum change.
Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
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Well Barrera-Morales was probably a more exciting fight regardless of skill level imo.
But no way Pac-Marquez was the FOTY imo I didn't find it to be a particulary great fight but to me it just wasn't enough action. And Margarito-Cotto had way more then just one momentum change.
I don't know amat. I thought the fight went Cotto's way in the beginning rounds, then you slowly started to see Margarito wear Cotto down, then Margarito took him out. I haven't seen the fight since the night it happened, but that's what I remember watching..
Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
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I was just looking up online and see it won the FOTY ? i was pretty shocked at that if im honest.
Rafael Marquez vs Israel Vasquez 3
Joel Casamayor vs Michael Katsidis
Tomas Villa vs Rogers Mtagwa
Jorge Arce vs Rafael Concepcion
What about these fights ? honestly i thought atleast 3 out of the 4 fights i listed above were easily better than Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto, don't get me wrong Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito was a cracking fight, but i certainly didn't think it was the FOTY. And i was pretty shocked it won FOTY aswell.
I think it was a 2 horse race with the first and Cotto-Margarito and I can't get upset. It was a fight with a ton of hype that a lot of people watched and they put on probably the best fight on HBO PPV since Barrera-Morales 3 and it had so much drama it was a crazy fight.
And I think it was a way better fight then Casa-Katsidis just without the knockdowns and it was at a waaay higher level then Villa and Mtagwa even though that was a great fight. In a year that didn't have a great fight at the top level that would have been it but not this year despite how great of a bout it was.
For the back and forth action, I thought Marquez-Pac II was FOTY. It was worth the 4 year wait in every way. But Cotto-Tony and Rafa-Izzy have their arguments.
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Nonito Donaire
I was just looking up online and see it won the FOTY ? i was pretty shocked at that if im honest.
Rafael Marquez vs Israel Vasquez 3
Joel Casamayor vs Michael Katsidis
Tomas Villa vs Rogers Mtagwa
Jorge Arce vs Rafael Concepcion
What about these fights ? honestly i thought atleast 3 out of the 4 fights i listed above were easily better than Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto, don't get me wrong Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito was a cracking fight, but i certainly didn't think it was the FOTY. And i was pretty shocked it won FOTY aswell.
Who ever gave the award must have missed the pacquiao marquez rematch! but the round of the year lasted about 20 seconds, breidis prescott sparkin amir khan!
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Nonito Donaire
I was just looking up online and see it won the FOTY ? i was pretty shocked at that if im honest.
Rafael Marquez vs Israel Vasquez 3
Joel Casamayor vs Michael Katsidis
Tomas Villa vs Rogers Mtagwa
Jorge Arce vs Rafael Concepcion
What about these fights ? honestly i thought atleast 3 out of the 4 fights i listed above were easily better than Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto, don't get me wrong Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito was a cracking fight, but i certainly didn't think it was the FOTY. And i was pretty shocked it won FOTY aswell.
Who ever gave the award must have missed the pacquiao marquez rematch!
but the round of the year lasted about 20 seconds, breidis prescott sparkin amir khan!
Couldn't really be round of the year because it was one-sided LOL!
Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
You can only pick one fight and i think cotto/margarito is deserving. I still get excited when i watch it.
Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
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Nonito Donaire
I was just looking up online and see it won the FOTY ? i was pretty shocked at that if im honest.
Rafael Marquez vs Israel Vasquez 3
Joel Casamayor vs Michael Katsidis
Tomas Villa vs Rogers Mtagwa
Jorge Arce vs Rafael Concepcion
What about these fights ? honestly i thought atleast 3 out of the 4 fights i listed above were easily better than Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto, don't get me wrong Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito was a cracking fight, but i certainly didn't think it was the FOTY. And i was pretty shocked it won FOTY aswell.
Who ever gave the award must have missed the pacquiao marquez rematch!
but the round of the year lasted about 20 seconds, breidis prescott sparkin amir khan!
Couldn't really be round of the year because it was one-sided LOL!
LOL, yeah but it was for me! i just wanted to see someone put that little asian invasian thinks hes ten men bastard on his ass!
Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
Probbably because it was a back and forth war. There was knockdowns, cuts and blood. And the underdog came out victorious when after the first 5/6 rounds it looked like he would be taught a lesson throughout. As well it was the two best welterweights going up against each other. The determination shown in both fighters was incredible too.
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Who ever gave the award must have missed the pacquiao marquez rematch! but the round of the year lasted about 20 seconds, breidis prescott sparkin amir khan!
Couldn't really be round of the year because it was one-sided LOL!
LOL, yeah but it was for me! i just wanted to see someone put that little
asian invasian thinks hes ten men bastard on his ass!
What does his ethnicity have to do with anything? :-\
Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
Even though my boy lost, it was a great fight and I am glad to hear it was chosen for FOTY and I wont argue with it. I think Ring Mag should consider PAC vs ODLH as their choice for FOTY ;D
Re: How Did Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito Win FOTY ?
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I think Cotto Margarito is absolutely the right choice. It was by far the most significant fight of 2008, the unstoppable Cotto on his way to superstardom and claiming the undisputed welterweight crown was brutally and stunningly knocked out by the iron chinned Tornado Antonio Margarito.
It's a fight that will be remembered for years to come.
The others fights mentioned, well the Arce and Mtagwa fights simply arn't significant at all in the scale of things. The results have no real impact on the boxing world, none of the fighters involved were elite and the fights havn't created any shockwaves through the boxing world.
The Vazquez Marquez fight was brilliant, but it was the third in a trilogy and they won fight of the year last year so fair enough that Cotto and Margarito share the honour for 08. It was a memorable, ultra exciting, hard fought, intense battle between two of the world's finest and ended in dramatic fashion, deserving of all the plaudit's it gets imo.
(Can't believe I'm gonna post this...)
Quite possibly one of your better posts since the one from March of last year. :appl:
Well done Bilbs keep up the good work.
I really do agree with what you said.
I would have liked Rafa-Izzy III cause I was there ringside but I've got no problems with Cotto-Tony afterall it was a brilliant fight and one that had just as much action and drama as the rest.
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Couldn't really be round of the year because it was one-sided LOL!
LOL, yeah but it was for me! i just wanted to see someone put that little
asian invasian thinks hes ten men bastard on his ass!
What does his ethnicity have to do with anything? :-\
nothing at all. but when you see amir khan and all his immigrant mates acting like they own the whole of manchester it makes me feel sick.
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LOL, yeah but it was for me! i just wanted to see someone put that little asian invasian thinks hes ten men bastard on his ass!
What does his ethnicity have to do with anything? :-\
nothing at all. but when you see amir khan and all his immigrant mates acting like they own the whole of manchester it makes me feel sick.
Khan is from Bolton so why would he own Manchester ?
And cut the racism as well. Talking like that won't get you far on this site. No need for it whatsoever.
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hitmann
LOL, yeah but it was for me! i just wanted to see someone put that little asian invasian thinks hes ten men bastard on his ass!
What does his ethnicity have to do with anything? :-\
nothing at all. but when you see amir khan and all his immigrant mates acting like they own the whole of manchester it makes me feel sick.
First of all, how would you know they're "immigrants"? Because of the color of their skin? That's not exactly a fool proof technique. You have no idea how long they've lived in the same country as you, and it doesn't matter anyways unless you're a small minded bigot or a drooling moron. Second, why would it matter if they are "immigrants" or not? If someone is an ass, they're an ass regardless of ethnicity or which country they were born in, where they're from has no bearing on anything. Finally, I'm curious, how are "immigrants" supposed to act?
Lefty is right, racism doesn't get you very far around here. I find your last statement more offensive than your first.
