Re: Honestly. Who do you think won?
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Re: Honestly. Who do you think won?
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I haven't seen the Berto Vs Collazo fight yet but the report I read on Fightnews made it sound like the result was a good one in a close fight!
Who did you guys who were lucky enough to see this fight score it for!
1 Even
2 Berto
3 Collazo
4 Collazo 10-8
5 Berto
6 Berto
7 Berto
8 Berto
9 Collazo
10 Collazo
11 Berto
12 Berto
115-113 Andre Berto.
I don't think it was razor thin close but it was highly competitive. I thought Luis Collazo didn't do enough work in the middle rounds, he went to sleep and hardly done anything. He made a good comeback in the 9th/10th rounds.
When he fought like a windmill outworking Andre Berto, but Andre Berto replied in the last 2 rounds outworking Luis Collazo. To seal the deal of any doubt i had regarding the decision.
What was suprising is that Andre Berto was getting beat on the inside, and Luis Collazo was getting beat on the outside. I thought it would be the other way around, but basically a very entertaining fight the best fight of the year. But Luis Collazo was outworked down the stretch, and didn't do nowhere near enough in the middle rounds.
This was basically my score card except I gave 11 to (IIRC) to Collazo; which left it a draw for me.
I was irritated that Bob Papa kept saying that Berto went down in the 1st! He said it through the whole fight and apparently nobody informed him of his mistake. Also, was Ledderman on crack to give round 7 to Collazo? He totally took that round off!
As for Berto ending up fighting the fight that wasn't the best for him, I totally credit Collazo for that. He pressured his way inside and got the fight largely on his terms. His experience gave Berto a great learning experience, and the fact that Berto dug so deep is very encouraging for his future.
I agree with almost all of your points Harold Lederman giving Luis Collazo the 7th round was just ridiculous. Just watching the round and looking at the punchstats, its impossible to have Luis Collazo winning that round. He was for certain on Luis Collazo's nutsack.
And Bob Papa was very annoying aswell i agree keep telling us it was a knockdown. Even after the fight he said it, what annoyed me more is that none of the commentator's informed him of his mistake what the hell are they commentator's for then ?
The only thing i disagree with you on is you giving Luis Collazo the 11th round, i thought it was a reasonably close round. But i thought Andre Berto outworked Luis Collazo in that round and he stole it for me.
As i said before the controversial rounds in this fight are the 1st, 6th, 11th. Those 3 rounds make the difference in everyone's scorecard from what i've seen on here.