Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
This will be the first time I've seen both fighters properly. But from what bits I have seen I think I would have to go for Darchinyan KO.
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
chows arce
he throws short accurate punches which vic wont see coming
arce tko 8 cant wait to see the fight
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
If Arce lands that left to the liver (Vic's awkward southpaw stance is made for it) at will, he should wear down Darchinyan quick and stop him. But if he doesn't... his face is gonna get busted up by the Armenian and he's gonna get KTFO.
One thing is for sure..this fight is gonna be a bloodbath. :lickish:
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Galaxy
Man I thought you knew a thing or two about the game VD but I guess like your pick on Arce I was way off!!!
Arce started at 105 the size difference ain't sh*t!
Like Bzkfn said Arce didn't want no southpaws & look how he's looked against them!!!
Wins over a shot Alvarez & Makepula don't prepare you for Darchinyan!
Did you see what Mijares done to Arce's face? He didn't even touch Vic!
I've already got the headlines for Sundays paper & the news is all bad for Arce!
The southpaws Arce has fought, fight nothing like Darchinyan. There movers. Darchinyan ain't no mover. Darchinyan has always gone into a fight knowing he's the stronger fighter. That's not the case this time. Arce unlike other Darchinyan opponents can punch. Arce also has the bigger heart. He's been hurt and has come back to win a fight. Darchinyan has never shown he can come back from adversity. Arce is the wrong fighter to try for the first fight.
Vic knocked out Mijares who had dominated Arce and Mijares was a southpaw...
This fight has bloodbath all over it.
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
this is gonna sound terrible but flyweight is just too low of a division for me to really give it any real credibility.
the guys fighting down there are more unique for their small stature and its quite feasible as the worlds population gets taller all the time the flyweight division could be entirely scrapped 10-15 years from now and just segregated into regional titles
In the UK the flyweight belt got decided last weekend between 2 guys both of which have had no more than 2-3 fights and it was the 1st flyweight title contest here in 3 years because nobody is that small anymore.
Cant honestly tell me the guy that is currently holding that belt deserves to call himself a british champion???
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
this is gonna sound terrible but flyweight is just too low of a division for me to really give it any real credibility.
the guys fighting down there are more unique for their small stature and its quite feasible as the worlds population gets taller all the time the flyweight division could be entirely scrapped 10-15 years from now and just segregated into regional titles
In the UK the flyweight belt got decided last weekend between 2 guys both of which have had no more than 2-3 fights and it was the 1st flyweight title contest here in 3 years because nobody is that small anymore.
Cant honestly tell me the guy that is currently holding that belt deserves to call himself a british champion???
Rubbish. First, Vic and Arce are 5'6. Many men are 5'6. The average height in many countries is within two inches of 5'6. Moreover, although the physical stature of the boxers may be short, the courage, desire, and atheltic ability are just as big in shorter fighters. The elements in boxing that attract fans to the sport - courage, ability, athleticism etc. - are present in any weight class.
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
...
darchinyan
:(
arce is too old, and even tho darchinyan is still horrible hes better then hes ever been and in his prime right now
:(
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
My pick : Arce
Why ? : Because he's in my stable ! :)
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
this is gonna sound terrible but flyweight is just too low of a division for me to really give it any real credibility.
the guys fighting down there are more unique for their small stature and its quite feasible as the worlds population gets taller all the time the flyweight division could be entirely scrapped 10-15 years from now and just segregated into regional titles
In the UK the flyweight belt got decided last weekend between 2 guys both of which have had no more than 2-3 fights and it was the 1st flyweight title contest here in 3 years because nobody is that small anymore.
Cant honestly tell me the guy that is currently holding that belt deserves to call himself a british champion???
I'd rather watch 2 fit, determined skilled flyweights than the usual fat slob heavyweights any day of the week.
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
this is gonna sound terrible but flyweight is just too low of a division for me to really give it any real credibility.
the guys fighting down there are more unique for their small stature and its quite feasible as the worlds population gets taller all the time the flyweight division could be entirely scrapped 10-15 years from now and just segregated into regional titles
In the UK the flyweight belt got decided last weekend between 2 guys both of which have had no more than 2-3 fights and it was the 1st flyweight title contest here in 3 years because nobody is that small anymore.
Cant honestly tell me the guy that is currently holding that belt deserves to call himself a british champion???
Honestly dude, yeah he does. Edwards has had plenty more than 2 or 3 fights, and is a much better fighter than his record suggests. Bloy was a poor choice as an opponent I agree, but Edwards absolutely deserves to be called British & Commonwealth champion. Honestly, Super-Flyweight was hands down the best division last year with champions actually willing to fight each other and remembering that competative sport is supposed to be about finding out who is the top dog. This fight has the potential to be a FOTY candidate. How can you not care about that?
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
this is gonna sound terrible but flyweight is just too low of a division for me to really give it any real credibility.
the guys fighting down there are more unique for their small stature and its quite feasible as the worlds population gets taller all the time the flyweight division could be entirely scrapped 10-15 years from now and just segregated into regional titles
In the UK the flyweight belt got decided last weekend between 2 guys both of which have had no more than 2-3 fights and it was the 1st flyweight title contest here in 3 years because nobody is that small anymore.
Cant honestly tell me the guy that is currently holding that belt deserves to call himself a british champion???
Didn't the Pacman start as a Flyweight? The smaller guys are the best, from Flyweight up to Featherweight you will see some of the greatest fights of all time.
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
this is gonna sound terrible but flyweight is just too low of a division for me to really give it any real credibility.
the guys fighting down there are more unique for their small stature and its quite feasible as the worlds population gets taller all the time the flyweight division could be entirely scrapped 10-15 years from now and just segregated into regional titles
In the UK the flyweight belt got decided last weekend between 2 guys both of which have had no more than 2-3 fights and it was the 1st flyweight title contest here in 3 years because nobody is that small anymore.
Cant honestly tell me the guy that is currently holding that belt deserves to call himself a british champion???
jimmy wilde. best fighter ever from the other side of the atlantic?
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
As ive said guys im quite sure you`ll find plenty of great south american and asian 112pounders but your not likely to find many stateside or in europe because we just dont make guys that small anymore.
Im not knocking the talents of these 2 guys and im quite sure its gonna be a great fight. But when a division becomes so segmented as this you have to question whether its strength in depth and ability to last the course of time!
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
Arces career has begun to wind down, the guys been fighting since '96 he was 16 when he started fighting.
One of the most active fighters of the past years fighting up to 3 times a year.
It's become clear that Arces boxing skills are more evident his defense is all gone. Takes too many shots and has been in sooo many blood baths and wars that's it's all about time now before he's TKO'd.
Well the time has come and it sucks cause it's gonna come in the hands of someone whom I think Arce would have TKO'd if this fight would have happened a few years back when it was originally intended for it to happen.
Arce struggled with "El Torito" Concepcion and Concepcion was on the verge of stopping Arce. Would Concepcion been a power puncher he would have stopped him but Arce fought on.
I think Vic will TKO Arce around the midway point of the fight.
The only way I can see Arce wining is if he fights smart and times Vic but Vic seems to be getting better and better as his career proceeds.
I was hoping to attend this fight but it doesn't look like I will. :(
Re: Vic v. Arce - Your Pick, and Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Arces career has begun to wind down, the guys been fighting since '96 he was 16 when he started fighting.
One of the most active fighters of the past years fighting up to 3 times a year.
It's become clear that Arces boxing skills are more evident his defense is all gone. Takes too many shots and has been in sooo many blood baths and wars that's it's all about time now before he's TKO'd.
Well the time has come and it sucks cause it's gonna come in the hands of someone whom I think Arce would have TKO'd if this fight would have happened a few years back when it was originally intended for it to happen.
Arce struggled with "El Torito" Concepcion and Concepcion was on the verge of stopping Arce. Would Concepcion been a power puncher he would have stopped him but Arce fought on.
I think Vic will TKO Arce around the midway point of the fight.
The only way I can see Arce wining is if he fights smart and times Vic but Vic seems to be getting better and better as his career proceeds.
I was hoping to attend this fight but it doesn't look like I will. :(
You gotta try. Although I don't live there now, I'm from LA and I know that the Armo and Mexican fight fans will be out in full effect.