I would love to see a Wald vs Haye fight if it was on HBO. I wouldn't pay 50 buck on PPV just to see Haye get his ass kicked.
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I would love to see a Wald vs Haye fight if it was on HBO. I wouldn't pay 50 buck on PPV just to see Haye get his ass kicked.
Haye is NEVER getting his ass kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
He's superman :D
Wladimir wants to be a crowd pleaser...Wlad always says that the belts don't mean anything if the people don't respect the man holding them. And although lots of people like to hate on the way Wlad fights or who he fights he does his job professionally and wants to please the fans.
Everyone was scared of Sam Peter when he was coming up and Wladimir stepped up after being stopped 2 times in very recent fights and just destroyed Sam Peter....Sam hasn't been the same fighter since then.
Wlad didn't want to fight Calvin Brock, Ray Austin, or Tony Thompson but he fought them and KO'd all of them.
Wlad made the unification fight with Sultan Ibragimov happen and although it was a lackluster fight Wlad knew it and appologized for it he said something like "I know everyone is disappointed that there was no knockout but there will be a knockout next time"
So in the end Wlad wants to please the fans and he knows he has to have the BEST competition he can find and the most DANGEROUS fighters to rival him and he's going to get David Haye or Haye's camp is going to ruin the deal and Wlad will give Cris Arreola the chance to fight him. Wlad is a smart businessman and he has made very smart choices in his career path (bar the Sanders fight).
David Haye has a shot to earn the titles and write his own ticket AFTER winning but he's trying to do it before he's done anything.
The heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
But he already got his ass kicked one time already.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeHaye is NEVER getting his ass kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
He's superman :D
There's always two sides of the story ;)
Haye’s trainer and manager Adam Booth is willing to sacrifice home territory in the hope of kick-starting the most important and exciting heavyweight contest in years.
"I want to make this absolutely clear, because unfortunately the KMG manager, Bernd Bonte, seems to be taking things too personally and trying to confuse the issue,” begun Booth. “The one-sided interview he did with biased keyboard warrior Dan Rafael (ESPN.com) – a man who has shown a longstanding dislike for David Haye - has distorted some of the facts.
"David will fight Wladimir anywhere they choose, and give them the two rematch options they have requested.
"In regards to the rematches clause, I am baffled as to why Bonte seems to have forgotten our last conversation about this. We said they could have the two rematches they wanted, which effectively means David’s next three fights could be in Germany against either Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko.
"What they’re also demanding is that if David were to win against Wladimir and then have a mandatory challenger obligation (non-Klitschko) he would have to immediately vacate the title he won from Wladimir. This would mean David could win three fights against the Klitschko brothers and still not be in a position to officially call himself heavyweight champion of the world at the end of it."
Booth continued: "They (the Klitschkos) would make exactly the same money in Germany as they would in England because we have dropped our figure to go to Germany. If they take a proposed fight with Chris Arreola, they will make substantially less. So people can now work this out for themselves
Boxing: Hayemaker statement on Wlad impasse | Setanta
"least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThe heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
But I thought all the Haye nuthuggers told us Wlad was running scared? Now it turns out Haye and his team are making insane, unrealistic economic demands even though Wlad already agreed to do the fight on Haye's home turf? Say it ain't so! :D
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Originally Posted by ClubberLang"least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThe heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Least Crowd Pleasing style????? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights???? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....:rolleyes:
Rafael's does come off as one sided, only interviewing the Klitchko side, disparaging Haye and calling Wlad a true champion.
Rafael provides some good info some times, he's also an embarrassment at times, most notably giving his opinion on fights he never saw.
Most boring of all time, I don't know, he's a big fan of the hand touch, either way he's certainly not all that concerned with being crowd pleasing.
You must of missed the dullest fight i have ever seen im my entire life against Sultan Ibragimov was voted worst fight of the year and his action packed fight against Tony Thompson.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterQuote:
Originally Posted by ClubberLang"least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Least Crowd Pleasing style????? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights???? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....:rolleyes:
The Ibragimov fight was certainly boring, but that was hardly Wlad's fault as Ibragimov was in survival mode from the start, circling the ring and refusing to engage. If one guy simply refuses to put up a fight, there's not much you can do other than give the other guy his only chance by going in recklessly. I did not think the Thompson fight was all that bad, not all-time classic by any means, but it certainly was not a stinker, and Wlad ended it with a crushing knockout. To say that Wlad is the most boring heavyweight of all-time is just plain silly. Have you ever seen John Ruiz, Chris Byrd, or Shannon Briggs fight? C'mon now, that was just a silly statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983You must of missed the dullest fight i have ever seen im my entire life against Sultan Ibragimov was voted worst fight of the year and his action packed fight against Tony Thompson.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterQuote:
Originally Posted by ClubberLang
Least Crowd Pleasing style????? Have you watched any of Wlad's fights???? So Lennox Lewis sucked as well because Wlad and Lewis have a very similar style....Wlad is top ten in knockout percentage of active fighters.....You must be one of those people that enjoyed when Ruiz and Byrd were champions.....:rolleyes:
Yeah, I should have written the guy recognised as the heavyweight champ rather than heavyweight. There can't have ever been anyone recognised as the man at heavyweight who was more boring to watch than Junior. John Ruiz was rubbish too but nobody ever considered him to be the man at heavyweight. For casual boxing fans and the wider public having a guy like Junior as champ turns them all off watching heavyweight boxing. The only way Vlad ever pleases a crowd is when he retires.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClubberLang"least crowd pleasing style in history"? Hyperbole much? I guess you've never sat through the torture that is a John Ruiz fight? Shannon "Asthmatic" Briggs, anyone? I'll grant that Wlad's technical style is not the most exciting out there, but compared to a lot of the current crop of heavys he's practically Arturro Gatti. At least Wlad usually knocks his opponents out after softening them up with his jab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThe heavyweight with the least crowd pleasing style in history wants to be a crowd pleaser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Don't forget Audley.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClubberLangThe Ibragimov fight was certainly boring, but that was hardly Wlad's fault as Ibragimov was in survival mode from the start, circling the ring and refusing to engage. If one guy simply refuses to put up a fight, there's not much you can do other than give the other guy his only chance by going in recklessly. I did not think the Thompson fight was all that bad, not all-time classic by any means, but it certainly was not a stinker, and Wlad ended it with a crushing knockout. To say that Wlad is the most boring heavyweight of all-time is just plain silly. Have you ever seen John Ruiz, Chris Byrd, or Shannon Briggs fight? C'mon now, that was just a silly statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983You must of missed the dullest fight i have ever seen im my entire life against Sultan Ibragimov was voted worst fight of the year and his action packed fight against Tony Thompson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter