Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?
I think its really hard to tell, I haven't seen the Pavlik fight yet, but Cotto was so much superior to his opponent he didn't really have to do anything, I wish he was a little more aggressive, but I think he is trying to work on being a very technical fighter who doesn't have defensive lapses like he did against Margarito.
Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?
I think Cotto needed an opponent like Jennings on his first fight back after losing to Margarito. It's like getting back on the horse again after you've been thrown off. Now it's business as usual, and Miguel can concentrate on continuing to hone his skills and go after the other elite fighters at 147.
Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?
Both fighters looked the same to me.
Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?
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Both got the win but against who???? Rubio and Jennings not really worldclass nevermind ELITE fighters we will know more when they fight a true top ten fighter Like Mosely or Clottey for Cotto and Abraham or even Duddy for Pavlik. See in these kind of fights both will have to use there mental strength and we will find out if they still have it or fall apart.
Duddy? U cant be serious?
Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?
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Chino
Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?
I was entertained but not impressed:( .
Oh... so only YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.
;)
Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?
Both looked good in return confidence builder fights just as they should have,,,,Neither faced a total piece of trash yet neither faced a real dangerous guy...The fights served their purpose...I think both will continue where they left off before the losses
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I thought Pavlik looked nervous at first but the ten rounds did him good. Still no knee bends though, but he does what he does well. Cotto looked good. I think Arum will go for Duddy against Pavlik next time out andpick a Duddy-level guy for Cotto too before he puts either of them in with really top quality opposition though. If he does risk either one against a top guy it'd be Cotto.
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I thought Pavlik looked nervous at first but the ten rounds did him good. Still no knee bends though, but he does what he does well. Cotto looked good. I think Arum will go for Duddy against Pavlik next time out andpick a Duddy-level guy for Cotto too before he puts either of them in with really top quality opposition though. If he does risk either one against a top guy it'd be Cotto.
Really? I thought Pavlik came out swinging in round 1! Whatever game plan Rubio had for Kelly went out the window in that first round. He did have spurts of putting his punches together but round 1 was his best overall round of the night.
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Chino
Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?
I was entertained but not impressed:( .
Those imaginary baseballers wouldnt have had broken noses, bleeding faces and bruised ribs. They arent risking their career everytime they fight. Stupid comparison.
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I thought Pavlik looked nervous at first but the ten rounds did him good. Still no knee bends though, but he does what he does well. Cotto looked good. I think Arum will go for Duddy against Pavlik next time out andpick a Duddy-level guy for Cotto too before he puts either of them in with really top quality opposition though. If he does risk either one against a top guy it'd be Cotto.
Really? I thought Pavlik came out swinging in round 1! Whatever game plan Rubio had for Kelly went out the window in that first round. He did have spurts of putting his punches together but round 1 was his best overall round of the night.
I watched the fight having had a little bit to drink but I can distinctly remember him looking nervous before the first bell and starting the fight throwing a big left which missed by a mile followed by more nervousness. Then he started to look more like his old self.
Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?
both fighters looked strong and pleased both venues. Congrats to Cotto and Pavlik.
Re: Did Cotto and Pavlik get over their losses?
Two very good comeback fights and boths rebuilding has begun.These were 'showcase' events,Though I actually thought Rubio would have some moments with boxing Pavlik but he was extremely passive from the opening bell and looked very under sized.Pavlik did exactly what he was predicted to do but to me ,he looked mechanical and repetitive down the stretch,especially when you consider he was getting very little resistance in return?Maybe we're all seeing his shortcomings,Imo,more clearly post the Hopkins clinic?Not bagging on the man,You cannot deny his strengh and power but he really looked the exact same with little adaptation.A fight with Abrahams would be awesome.
Had never seen Jennings prior,and he was given a HUGE opportunity against one of the games best today.But clearly,He was brought in for a showcase.It was the Minor leaguer getting the call to pitch in the big leagues for a night.He really was not expected to win the game,just get them through a couple of innings.Game,I believe he did what he could with what he had to offer.He could have stayed on the deck or in the corner,but got up and went on.I think Cotto needs a stern acid test and can fully recoup his status.All speculation and 'shadow' aside,he was defeated in style and endurance with Tony.He needs to sit stronger and commit in harsh combinations...and defiantly stay off of the ropes.Saturday he showed very nice Patients and timed things perfectly.Did not have that swagger....the showing of the right hand he did with Gomez and Tony early,where he seemed almost to comfortable.I think he'll totally rebuild physically and mentally & regain a strap.....his jab is great,left hook is brutal and his closing & cutting off the ring is much improved.A rematch with Mosley seems inevitable.
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Kirkland Laing
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C-Lo
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Kirkland Laing
I thought Pavlik looked nervous at first but the ten rounds did him good. Still no knee bends though, but he does what he does well. Cotto looked good. I think Arum will go for Duddy against Pavlik next time out andpick a Duddy-level guy for Cotto too before he puts either of them in with really top quality opposition though. If he does risk either one against a top guy it'd be Cotto.
Really? I thought Pavlik came out swinging in round 1! Whatever game plan Rubio had for Kelly went out the window in that first round. He did have spurts of putting his punches together but round 1 was his best overall round of the night.
I watched the fight having had a little bit to drink but I can distinctly remember him looking nervous before the first bell and starting the fight throwing a big left which missed by a mile followed by more nervousness. Then he started to look more like his old self.
He definitely looked nervous before the bell. There was a lot on his plate. He just lost, he needs to have a great performance, it was a packed house where EVERYONE was routing for him, and his career was on the line. That's a lot of pressure!
I think the first round was one of, if not, the best round Pavlik had all night. He came out imposing his physicality and smothered Rubio with punches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNTBpspcwU0
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Chino
Imagine if, say, a pro baseball team went all the way to the World Series and lost all the games (sweep), do they go out and face college teams to show their fans that they are back?
I was entertained but not impressed:( .
Oh... so only
YOUR favorite fighters are entitled for the common breather after a significant defeat. You're so predictable in your biases, it's almost comical.
;)
Nope, I bashed ODLH as well for facing Forbes and LOOKING BAD and he didn't even come from a defeat such as Cotto's and Pavlik's. Does that sound biased?
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I think Cotto needed an opponent like Jennings on his first fight back after losing to Margarito. It's like getting back on the horse again after you've been thrown off. Now it's business as usual
Now you are saying that Cotto's victory against a bum shows that he's back in business? And you were saying I was biased.
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Kirkland Laing
I thought Pavlik looked nervous at first but the ten rounds did him good. Still no knee bends though, but he does what he does well. Cotto looked good. I think Arum will go for Duddy against Pavlik next time out andpick a Duddy-level guy for Cotto too before he puts either of them in with really top quality opposition though. If he does risk either one against a top guy it'd be Cotto.
A I foresee a horrible KO coming Duddy's way.