yet in another thread you said Hatton smashes Pac in like 5 :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
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yet in another thread you said Hatton smashes Pac in like 5 :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
http://hardcoresportsradio.com/conte...da407aeceb.mp3
I don't thing we'll see him in the ring again. Not in professional boxing. If you listen to the radio promotional interview he says he's sitting on $600 million. If he is truely worth all that, there is no good reasons to. He already as the image and can brag about his accomplishments. If he returned to the ring it would have to be against someone he could actually beat with the amount of inactivity he's had and have enough draw for him to risk a blemish on his record.
Mosley - to tough, he might lose a 12 rounder.
Pacquiao - to dangerous, might get a lucky shot in.
Marquez - to dangerous & not enough draw.
Hatton - Might have learned something from daddy (maybe if he beats Pacquiao)
Nobody else to consider because there's no draw.
I personally would give Mayweather credit for wins over Pacquiao & Marquez. They are both future Hall of Famer's & would both be among the P4P at the time of the fights. Which in all essence would throw the weight arguements out the window imo.
But your always going to get the haters that will never give him credit no matter what he does. If he came back & defeated Mosley it would be Mosley got old over night, if he beat Berto it would be to green, Williams was weight drained etc etc
I would like to see Mayweather take on a new challenge and face a proper fighter at 147. Namely Mosley or Cotto. Mayweather took too many easy fights in recent years in names like Baldomir, Mitchell, Bruseles etc. The big names he fought had question marks ie Zab coming off a lame loss, Hatton out of his weight class, Gatti was a star but limited etc.
Im not so sure Mayweather will even come back. I think that like Calzaghe he was losing interest towards the end, and that might have explained some of Mayweathers opponent choices too. He was looking to cash out as big and easy as he could. If he did come back it probably would be against someone like Pac or Hatton. I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton get a rematch because it might have evened out somewhat between them. But I would prefer a proper WW fight, doubt Mayweather would be up that though.
You ever heard of sarcasm dumbass ? :vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyet in another thread you said Hatton smashes Pac in like 5 :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
I think both these fights would be worth it for his ATG rating, however, there would definitely be people who said 'oh he just beat up on smaller fighters'. If he beat Vitali there would doubtless be those who would say 'oh well Vitali clearly got old overnight'. Even though I'm a big fan of his, I actually don't think boxing needs him, I think there's enough good fights left. There will always be good young fighters coming through, hell he could beat Cotto, Mosley, Clottey & Berto, & then people would say he's duckin Victor Ortiz or Demetrius Andrade.
Also the argument about his weight is defunct, the fact is he is the smaller man than Hatton, the difference is he was actually coming down in weight after beating ODLH, which Hatton's team were claiming up until the start of the fight would affect him & leave him out of shape. They were saying before the fight how small he was & how Hatton would overpower him, so you can't make excuses after. Mayweather has a similar build to Casamayor all round (I think he might be an inch taller) but for me this makes him a natural lightweight or light-welter who has just chosen to fight above his weight.
I dont think he needs to. I use to hate just cos i wanted to someone beat him. Truthfully I dont think anyone ever could.
I wouldnt argue his greatness over his resume just the way he went about his work in the ring. Id happily place him top 10 p4p ever. Love it if he came back.
Prolly would not give him props for beating either of them though.cos IMO it's a no brainer Mayweather owns both of them. The guy is unbeatable.
You are correct. You've pointed out the double standard, we've seen it here before.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
So you'd give Mayweather credit for beating Pac, because Pac fought once at 142 against a lame DLH, after fighting only once at 135. But you won't give Mayweather credit for beating Hatton, cause Hatton previously only fought at 140? Damn, What I'd really like to see is PAC fight Hatton at 147, cause then you would have to not give Pac the credit if he won, cause he's more of a natural welterweight than Hatton? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeJMM is untested at 147. I doubt Mayweather would fight him at Jr welterweight. So if he fought and beat JMM at 147 he wouldn't get my credit no. As Mayweather has/had a clear advantage and JMM is not a natural welterweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHSo if he comes back and hypothetically fights and beats JMM and Pac, you'd see it as him continuing to beat up on smaller fighters and be disappointed that he didn't fight Mosley, Berto, or Cotto instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
I'm not necessarily challenging your opinion, I just want to clarify what you mean in the context of this thread.
Pac I would give him credit for, I mean yeah he is bigger than Pac but Pac has fought at 142, and he looked good, not drained etc. So I doubt 5 more pounds would do harm to Pac. But again, Mayweather is picking on the smaller guys.
What I meant by those guys I listed is I want him to fight a natural welterweight. A decent one too who would be a challenge. Unlike Carlos Baldomir :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa
Now that's what you call nuthugging.
Going back to the issue,
<script>
if (PBF comes back){
alert(" He will have to fight Pac. Pac will \n outpoint him and that would be bad for his career");
document.write(" He will ask for more than $20 Million to compensate for the humiliation")
}
else( He stays retired)
{alert("He retired because he does not want to fight Cotto. \n He's definitely ducking all legitimate threats to his record.");
document.write("He will stay retired rather than fight Cotto")
}
</script>
;D;D;D;D
[quote=brucelee;699125]Now that's what you call nuthugging.{/quote]
I was only joking^^^
As for the rest: like Cotto really would do anything :rolleyes: You should have at least said Mosley
Alright dude if Mayweather ahd fought Cotto and Clottey back 2 or 3 years ago then people would just be complaining that he didn't fight them in their primes.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
They'd say Berto wasnt ready, that Clottey was untested and that Cotto is a much better fighter now.
Although timelines are selective when it comes to boxing fans who have selective memories.
They would be the quickest to say if Mayweather beat Cotto that Cotto is a much better fighter now and it would be different, but they would be the first to say that Mayweather isnt the best because of the Castillo fight and that Cotto would beat him for the same reasons..as if Mayweather didn't become a better fighter after that fight either.
Once Mayweather beats someone then another name will pop up.
And I can guarantee you if Margarito beat Floyd instead of Cotto, and then this whole glove controversy came up after the Mosley fight, NONE of the people who talk about Mayweather would try to dispute Tony's victory like they do for the Cotto fight.
That said I don't want Mayweather to unretire. He should be a fighter that you should appreciate when he is around and if you didn't, when he is gone you missed out on a lot. Lot's of great fighters have come along and yet their greatness was never enjoyed because boxing fans decided to hate them.
So for the fans who enjoyed Mayweather when he was around, hats off to you, for those that didnt, its their loss.