Re: Mora vs Pavlik in June or July
Here's more info on it.
It looks like JCC Jr is the other main fight, but Arum might have Margacheato on the card as well.
Kelly Pavlik's third title defense to come against Sergio Mora - ESPN
;D
Re: Mora vs Pavlik in June or July
Mora has a style that could trouble Pavlik.
Pavlik's pressure and power should get him through though.
Pavlik by mid -late TKO.
Hopefully after this he fights people more worth fighting.
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Good choice for Kelly. Relatively easy fight, against a fighter that a few casual fans will remember.
Thats the problem with Boxing.
Really fed up of watching predictable one sided beatdowns especially when the fights that you'd expect to be exciting aren't even screened over here.....Berto - Collazo for example.
Getting really boring watching Pavlik and Abraham both fighting piss poor fighters. It's not even building up suspense to a super-fight anymore. It's beyond a joke.
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Sergio is no B Hop. I think Kelly wins this fight on the cards. Once Sergio figures out he cant win he will make it an ugly stinkfest..........
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I don't mind Mora atall, he's just a little small for this division. I see Mr 2D Pavlik walking him down and not being deterred in the slightest by what Mora has to offer.
I know he took a real good hiding from BHop but Pavlik really needs to get a bit more back for himself than beating Sergio Mora. Surely people don't really want to see this.
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I love Mora. This guy just has balls pure and simple. Nobody knew who he was until he won The Contender,after this accomplishment goes on to fight the junior middleweight champ Vernon Forrest and wins,he then loses the rematch and now he signs to fight Pavlik. A very rare class act outside the ring. What can you not like about this guy. It just sucks he has to fight Pavlik.
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Mora is a tougher fight for Pavlik than Duddy, another potential opponent before the AA fight. Mora is a former champ at jr. middleweight and a tricky fighter. If he is waiting on Abraham, then this is really not a bad fight in the interim. Too bad it is a PPV or I'd say that it wasn't all that bad of a move.
On that note, why are people putting down Pavlik for not fighting Abraham, rather than vice versa? Why are people putting down Pavlik's choice of opponents and not Abraham's? Be fair.
Pavlik has taken the tougher road in recent times. Who has Abraham fought recently that is worth mentioning? Speaking of which, who the hell is Lajuan Simon? Inititially, I thought he was a lesser-known European fighter, but it turns out he is from Philly! It's just that he has never fought anyone remotely known and is completely untested. Talk about a Gary Lockett, but actually he isn't quite as accomplished as Gary Lockett. And he isn't close to a Sergio Mora. Wait, Pavlik fought Lockett after fighting Jermain Taylor. Maybe AA deserved a breather because his last fight was against an elite opponent? Uhmm...No - it was against Raul Marquez!! When was the last time Abraham was tested? Khoren Ghevor? Maybe the first Edison Miranda fight? Please. Indeed, who is AA's biggest win? Please hold AA to the same standard you hold Pavlik.
Pavlik v. Abraham is a tough fight to call, 50-50 really. I'm a big fan of both. I may lean toward AA in a fight between the two, but I hold AA in high regard.
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The Fightfan
I love Mora. This guy just has balls pure and simple. Nobody knew who he was until he won The Contender,after this accomplishment goes on to fight the junior middleweight champ Vernon Forrest and wins,he then loses the rematch and now he signs to fight Pavlik. A very rare class act outside the ring. What can you not like about this guy. It just sucks he has to fight Pavlik.
The only thing I don't like about him is his taunting. Other than that, I agree.
Re: Mora vs Pavlik in June or July
The lustre has long since worn off KP IMO
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how the hell can anyone claim this fight will be close
have you lot actually seen sergio and kelly fight??
Pavlik will dismantle, destroy and completely beat up sergio for about 6-7rounds until team mora decides there boy has had enough!!
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The Fightfan
I love Mora. This guy just has balls pure and simple. Nobody knew who he was until he won The Contender,after this accomplishment goes on to fight the junior middleweight champ Vernon Forrest and wins,he then loses the rematch and now he signs to fight Pavlik. A very rare class act outside the ring. What can you not like about this guy. It just sucks he has to fight Pavlik.
The only thing I don't like about him is his taunting. Other than that, I agree.
I actually think you have to taunt a little bit in the ring nowadays to get ya fired up. He doesn't belittle fighter's is what I really wanted to say. Shows the utmost respect before and after maybe a little shit talking in the ring but there isn't nothing wrong with that. Also we have a lot of hater's of Pavlik all of a sudden since B-Hop beat him that's the need to put him down and not vice versa.
Why don't most of these people ask why hasn't Abraham fought outside of Germany except for 2 fight's. Switzerland and SEMINOLE FL ??? (Don't get me wrong I am actually in the next few years moving to that exact location Seminole Florida getting a little sick of this weather in Philly I need some sunshine.) Ask why Pavlik doesn't care who he fight's and Abraham hasn't called Pavlik's name. I think their going about this the right way and by the end of the year or this time next year there will be a unification.
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hattonthehammer
how the hell can anyone claim this fight will be close
have you lot actually seen sergio and kelly fight??
Pavlik will dismantle, destroy and completely beat up sergio for about 6-7rounds until team mora decides there boy has had enough!!
Yeah I really can't see anything Mora can do to beat Pavlik
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The Fightfan
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Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by
The Fightfan
I love Mora. This guy just has balls pure and simple. Nobody knew who he was until he won The Contender,after this accomplishment goes on to fight the junior middleweight champ Vernon Forrest and wins,he then loses the rematch and now he signs to fight Pavlik. A very rare class act outside the ring. What can you not like about this guy. It just sucks he has to fight Pavlik.
The only thing I don't like about him is his taunting. Other than that, I agree.
I actually think you have to taunt a little bit in the ring nowadays to get ya fired up. He doesn't belittle fighter's is what I really wanted to say. Shows the utmost respect before and after maybe a little shit talking in the ring but there isn't nothing wrong with that. Also we have a lot of hater's of Pavlik all of a sudden since B-Hop beat him that's the need to put him down and not vice versa.
Why don't most of these people ask why hasn't Abraham fought outside of Germany except for 2 fight's. Switzerland and SEMINOLE FL ??? (
Don't get me wrong I am actually in the next few years moving to that exact location Seminole Florida getting a little sick of this weather in Philly I need some sunshine.) Ask why Pavlik doesn't care who he fight's and
Abraham hasn't called Pavlik's name. I think their going about this the right way and by the end of the year or this time next year there will be a unification.
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
how the hell can anyone claim this fight will be close
have you lot actually seen sergio and kelly fight??
Pavlik will dismantle, destroy and completely beat up sergio for about 6-7rounds until team mora decides there boy has had enough!!
Yeah I really can't see anything Mora can do to beat Pavlik
Have you missed the last few weeks? The Sauerland people are desperately trying to make the fight its Arum & Pavlik's people who're ducking it. Abraham wants to make this fight before he can't make 160 anymore as a win will also help his standing when he goes up to 168. I'd be rooting for Pavlik if they fought, but don't act like it ain't Kelly who's dodgin the fight
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The Fightfan
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Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by
The Fightfan
I love Mora. This guy just has balls pure and simple. Nobody knew who he was until he won The Contender,after this accomplishment goes on to fight the junior middleweight champ Vernon Forrest and wins,he then loses the rematch and now he signs to fight Pavlik. A very rare class act outside the ring. What can you not like about this guy. It just sucks he has to fight Pavlik.
The only thing I don't like about him is his taunting. Other than that, I agree.
I actually think you have to taunt a little bit in the ring nowadays to get ya fired up. He doesn't belittle fighter's is what I really wanted to say. Shows the utmost respect before and after maybe a little shit talking in the ring but there isn't nothing wrong with that. Also we have a lot of hater's of Pavlik all of a sudden since B-Hop beat him that's the need to put him down and not vice versa.
Why don't most of these people ask why hasn't Abraham fought outside of Germany except for 2 fight's. Switzerland and
SEMINOLE FL ??? (
Don't get me wrong I am actually in the next few years moving to that exact location Seminole Florida getting a little sick of this weather in Philly I need some sunshine.) Ask why Pavlik doesn't care who he fight's and
Abraham hasn't called Pavlik's name. I think their going about this the right way and by the end of the year or this time next year there will be a unification.
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
how the hell can anyone claim this fight will be close
have you lot actually seen sergio and kelly fight??
Pavlik will dismantle, destroy and completely beat up sergio for about 6-7rounds until team mora decides there boy has had enough!!
Yeah I really can't see anything Mora can do to beat Pavlik
I'm as critical of Abraham's choice of opposition as anyone, but traveling to Miranda's backyard to give him the rematch is nothing to rip on him for. Also, he recently called out Pavlik, I posted the article on here.
As for Mora, I'm one of the few who like him, I'll be cheering for him, but I don't really see any way he beats Pavlik. He showed a good chin against Forrest in the rematch, but I think Pavlik will catch him lunging in and stop him at some point. I just don't see any way Mora can win. He's doesn't have the footwork of Hopkins, nor does he have a solid defense or the power to both Pavlik.
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JazMerkin
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The Fightfan
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Rantcatrat
The only thing I don't like about him is his taunting. Other than that, I agree.
I actually think you have to taunt a little bit in the ring nowadays to get ya fired up. He doesn't belittle fighter's is what I really wanted to say. Shows the utmost respect before and after maybe a little shit talking in the ring but there isn't nothing wrong with that. Also we have a lot of hater's of Pavlik all of a sudden since B-Hop beat him that's the need to put him down and not vice versa.
Why don't most of these people ask why hasn't Abraham fought outside of Germany except for 2 fight's. Switzerland and SEMINOLE FL ??? (
Don't get me wrong I am actually in the next few years moving to that exact location Seminole Florida getting a little sick of this weather in Philly I need some sunshine.) Ask why Pavlik doesn't care who he fight's and
Abraham hasn't called Pavlik's name. I think their going about this the right way and by the end of the year or this time next year there will be a unification.
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
how the hell can anyone claim this fight will be close
have you lot actually seen sergio and kelly fight??
Pavlik will dismantle, destroy and completely beat up sergio for about 6-7rounds until team mora decides there boy has had enough!!
Yeah I really can't see anything Mora can do to beat Pavlik
Have you missed the last few weeks? The Sauerland people are desperately trying to make the fight its Arum & Pavlik's people who're ducking it. Abraham wants to make this fight before he can't make 160 anymore as a win will also help his standing when he goes up to 168. I'd be rooting for Pavlik if they fought, but don't act like it ain't Kelly who's dodgin the fight
if it happened it`d be great to watch just because of the fact abraham is steamrollering world champion contenders and pavlik is the current man at 160
Id hedge my bets on an abraham stoppage though it would be one of those complete pick`em fights!
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Possibly the happiest poster on this forum right now.
As i said in a previous thread on this same topic, I heavily favor Pavlik in this fight. I'm not even going to "cover" myself and say that i wouldn't be surprised if Sergio pulled something out, because i really don't ever see that happening. I think sergio can make this fight competetive in the early rounds, but his lunging style could really hurt him. If Kelly catches him ONCE when sergio is on the way in, then he's done.
Sergio doesn't have the experience or the footwork to take down kelly. For someone who can't hurt their opponent, he would need to fight on the outside and score, and i can't see that happening for 12 rounds.