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He's what, 19? And you're saying that he would get sparked by world class fighters? No shit Sherlock! lol He's still growing physically, so of course he's not got the power that the Klits have. I would love to see him and Price get it on, with all the shit that has been said by the two it woulkd be a firecracker of a fight! Not that it'll ever happen if Hennesey has his way.
Two rd job I think.
If Hennessy is looking to keep moving him up in class, and assuming he continues to prove himself over the next three months or so, I'd like to see him make a match with Francesco Pianeta, the European Union title holder who I think would be a smart bit of matchmaking, although he's not ventured from Germany too often.Quote:
Originally Posted by rowlesy
I think Pianeta is dependent on power, and is very open to being outworked over the rounds, though Fury would need a few 8 or 10 rounders I think to get the stamina right. Pianeta was lucky to scrape it against Sosnowski, and I think Fury would outwork him early on, and we'd see how good his chin is later on.
Otherwise, I'm sure there'll be an Inter-Continental title or Youth title or something of that nature out there for him.
I actually thought that Pianeta lost that fight, I think he was saved by Sosnowski running out of steam in the last three or so rounds.
He's up against Matthew Ellis on Saturday, the guy that Maccarenelli sparked in not much time. Should be a good gauge of where he's at in his development.
I like the fact he is fighting every month, that will do him no harm.
Clearly he has an awful lot to learn, as amateur boxing is more than ever further away from pro game.
He could do with either losing 20lbs, or toning up, hopefully Ellis has got enough in him to give Fury another four rounds or so.
It is far too early to make a judgement on him, other than to say, so far, so good and that he, if nothing else, punches harder than the old man ever did!
[QUOTE=rowlesy;713249]I actually thought that Pianeta lost that fight, I think he was saved by Sosnowski running out of steam in the last three or so rounds.
He's up against Matthew Ellis on Saturday, the guy that Maccarenelli sparked
Well Tyson knocked ellis out in 50 seconds
Yeah, I've just seen it after taping it. What was Ellis doing? He just walked straight into his jabs, if he was hoping that Tyson couldn't fight off his back foot, how wrong can you be?!?!
Couldn't really learn anything off that fight, except he seems to be getting quicker as he gets in better shape but could still do with toning up and maybe losing another half a stone or so. And there can't really be any doubt that he does pack a punch. And thankfully his shorts stayed up this time! lol
Matthew Ellis was always going to lose ,but come on , he didnt even throw a single punch in the fight !!
Ellis is a disgrace ,
im still not sold on Fury , but i like the fact he fights every month.
What was Ellis strategy in that fight?
Tyson is getting better each fight and could be pushed faster otherwise he will get bored. Needs to be in a tougher contest.
I think Ellis must have been trying to break Tyson's hands by head-butting them.
Nothing much to add except what you guys have already said. He's improving in opposition and needs to keep doing that. Ellis was clueless in terms of tactics. The only thing I can think of was that he saw the quickest way to his paycheck was through Fury's fists, and made a beeline for them. When he looks back I don't think he'll be too happy with that performance.
As for Fury, nothing much learnt off that fight, except that he's still looking fairly fast, and he's still a big lump. He'll be on the undercard of Froch v Taylor against some American opposition, so hopefully we can learn more then as he's pitted against someone more durable.
I would hope Fury went for a training camp pre Ellis, and still had to go though all the build up preparing for the fight, etc. So even though it went less than a minute, Fury is still learning, even from fights like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by rowlesy
Remember Lennox Lewis fought Noel Quarless (in his seventh bout) a white British Heavyweight, with seemingly some potential a few years prior (to fighting Lewis), and Lewis blew him away. Nine months later Lenny the Lion was European Champ.
Now I am not saying Fury is the next Lewis, but if it turns out he is half as good, he is going to be world class in the current market.
I agree with the weight issue though, I think Fury could do with losing 20lbs myself.
Tyson looked fast. His speedy combinations are definitely his best feature.
He seems to be able to operate well even with a fairly soft stomach so I don't think losing weight would be the answer for him right now.
He'd risk losing power if he did that and he doesn't need to be losing any power. It's a catch 22 really...he kind of has skinny/fat man syndrome. Not much muscle mass and a soft mid section. There's no doubt he wouldn't even be in the heavyweight division if it wasn't for his height.
If he tried to take care of one of his physique limitations, he'd sacrifice a part of his game that he needs. He loses fat/weight he may lose power and strength. If he increases muscle mass, you're normally gonna bring a bit of fat along for the ride which would be detrimental to his speed.
I'm interested in seeing how his physique develops and matures, if at all, over his career.
Get him in with David Price and he'ld get knocked spark out!
Dunno about that...but Price definitely has more power in his shots and a more matured physique so he'd be stronger if he could use that to his advantage. It's just the chin of Price that has a question mark on it...However, for me, that same question mark hangs over Fury too (regardless of how many times ITV wanna shove down our throats the fact that he's never been down)Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
That would make for an interesting fight for sure