Cotto Says Margarito Should Be Banned For LIFE!!

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by jon09

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

I seriously doubt that Cotto could ever beat Margarito. Just wasn't in the cards for him.

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No doubt about it I agree. Lets not forget that Cotto hit Margarito with some very hard shots and he just kept coming. Margarito can't illegally wrap his chin or his ribs.
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Yes he kept coming because Tony knew he would land one or two with his loaded wraps and bust Cotto up fast and then it would all be downhill from there but, all Cotto has to do is follow Mosleys strategy and Cotto will beat Tony just like Shane did but I think Cotto would come into this fight with a huge grudge and a very large chip on his shoulder and Cotto will probably try to kill Margacheater. Margaritos punches against Shane Mosley looked to be no harder than Paulie Malignaggi's because Tony was missing the plaster of PEREZ in his gloves and thus he had no pop this time and his chin got cracked because of it. Cotto can crack that chin too, if Tony ain't got the plaster in the wraps :lickish:

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Margarito wasn't hitting Mosley nearly as much as Cotto. Cotto boxed beatifully against Margarito landing tons of shots and they were bombs, but his punches were not phasing him. Like someone else said Mosley has a great chin to top it off.

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Originally Posted by markb018

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by jon09

No doubt about it I agree. Lets not forget that Cotto hit Margarito with some very hard shots and he just kept coming. Margarito can't illegally wrap his chin or his ribs.
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Yes he kept coming because Tony knew he would land one or two with his loaded wraps and bust Cotto up fast and then it would all be downhill from there but, all Cotto has to do is follow Mosleys strategy and Cotto will beat Tony just like Shane did but I think Cotto would come into this fight with a huge grudge and a very large chip on his shoulder and Cotto will probably try to kill Margacheater. Margaritos punches against Shane Mosley looked to be no harder than Paulie Malignaggi's because Tony was missing the plaster of PEREZ in his gloves and thus he had no pop this time and his chin got cracked because of it. Cotto can crack that chin too, if Tony ain't got the plaster in the wraps :lickish:

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Margarito wasn't hitting Mosley nearly as much as Cotto. Cotto boxed beatifully against Margarito landing tons of shots and they were bombs, but his punches were not phasing him. Like someone else said Mosley has a great chin to top it off.

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Shane actually didn't neglect his defense.

Surprisingly, Shane Mosley seems to be the only fighter who doesn't place the blame on Margarito. He places the blame on his people around him but didn't feel Margarito should be the one punished

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy6CgpBrWwY

i aggree 100% with cotto..no matter how much money margarito brings in he's been found guilty of cheating with dangerous substances in his gloves which are designed to add damage to another human being who has spend months getting ready for a sporting event!!! thats dangerous enough within its legal rules............he should be banned for life, his status as a champion stripped, his record zero'd and name deleted from the sport...this should be the standard action to anyone found guilty of any such crime in a combat sport......people get seriously hurt...even killed within the sport when things are done within its rules, never mind useing hardened wraps of performance enhancers.....as a huge fan of his thats what i'd like to see happen

I actually thought that Mosley would win BEFORE I knew about the hand wraps but I thought it would be on points. I think the fact that Mosley so dominated and outclassed Margarito so comprehensively shows that Margarito hand wraps played a MASSIVE part in his career. When you look at the style and trajectory of Magarito punches, to me, he doesn't punch like or shape like he punches hard. He doesn't look like he puts everything into his punches, turns his whole body and shoulder. Yet he was destroying guys. It's not like where you watch the old Tyson or Julian Jackson or Thomas Hearns those fighters LOOK like they punch hard. I consider Margarito only couples of notches above Luis Resto

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Originally Posted by Majesty

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Yes he kept coming because Tony knew he would land one or two with his loaded wraps and bust Cotto up fast and then it would all be downhill from there but, all Cotto has to do is follow Mosleys strategy and Cotto will beat Tony just like Shane did but I think Cotto would come into this fight with a huge grudge and a very large chip on his shoulder and Cotto will probably try to kill Margacheater. Margaritos punches against Shane Mosley looked to be no harder than Paulie Malignaggi's because Tony was missing the plaster of PEREZ in his gloves and thus he had no pop this time and his chin got cracked because of it. Cotto can crack that chin too, if Tony ain't got the plaster in the wraps :lickish:

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Margarito wasn't hitting Mosley nearly as much as Cotto. Cotto boxed beatifully against Margarito landing tons of shots and they were bombs, but his punches were not phasing him. Like someone else said Mosley has a great chin to top it off.

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Shane actually didn't neglect his defense.

Surprisingly, Shane Mosley seems to be the only fighter who doesn't place the blame on Margarito. He places the blame on his people around him but didn't feel Margarito should be the one punished

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy6CgpBrWwY

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Only because he himself was caught cheating.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

So because he could not hurt Mosley you think he hits soft Danny come on Mosley has best chin of this era he up there with Hagler and Leonard.

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For someone who has the best chin in the business, he sure did a lot of holding in order to avoid getting hit at the right moments and lets not forget, Margarito did not have the plaster.

Plaster of paris in the gloves,you dont just find that lying in the corner of the dressing room and think,'hmmI've got an idea Tony !'
It's not just a block of plaster that would damage hands we are talking about a fighter having it carefully apllied to his hands and then wrapped to give extra weight . It was a conspiracy and collusion of the worse kind and fucking sickening
Can't believe people are even debating loaded gloves .
Like a fighter would risk everything on the night and all of a sudden choose to wear loaded gloves .
It's like making a career out of knife fights and then turning up with a gun .
Like anyone seriously believes this was a first time .
No question not even the slightest hint of a question he should should be banned FOR LIFE.

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Originally Posted by denilson200

I actually thought that Mosley would win BEFORE I knew about the hand wraps but I thought it would be on points. I think the fact that Mosley so dominated and outclassed Margarito so comprehensively shows that Margarito hand wraps played a MASSIVE part in his career. When you look at the style and trajectory of Magarito punches, to me, he doesn't punch like or shape like he punches hard. He doesn't look like he puts everything into his punches, turns his whole body and shoulder. Yet he was destroying guys. It's not like where you watch the old Tyson or Julian Jackson or Thomas Hearns those fighters LOOK like they punch hard. I consider Margarito only couples of notches above Luis Resto

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Good post that.

I totally agree that technically Margarito really doesn't look very good. He does have a great chin and a lot of stamina, but when it comes to throwing punches with mean intentions I struggle to see where the power is coming from. You point out how someone like Tyson throws punches and tries to get serious leverage on his shots by bending his knees and really letting his
body turn into the shot. Margarito, for me, has always looked sloppy when he throws. As much as I love Calzaghe, I think of Margarito as having a punch style more in that vein rather than a fighter who can really accumulate damage. And yet he did accumulate damage, I'm not saying he hardened the gloves in previous fights, but it does make you wonder to yourself.

Margarito should be banned for life, if some of you question the fact that having plaster in your handwraps can change a fight,it's like having a weapon!

it's cheating, there are no excuses, and he could have killed a boxer that night or the other nights. I'm just so happy Shane's people were there to examine his handwraps.

Margarito don't deserve to fight again, his cornermen and team should be kept outside boxing organisation. hell he even shouldn't be allowed to watch the fight.

Cotto's defeat should be scrapped from his record to a non contest. Margarito cheated like this guys years ago whoi fought a brave kid with fake gloves (they removed the protection of gloves). I still see the father examining the gloves at the end of the fight...these people are murderers.

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Originally Posted by SEB

Margarito should be banned for life, if some of you question the fact that having plaster in your handwraps can change a fight,it's like having a weapon!

it's cheating, there are no excuses, and he could have killed a boxer that night or the other nights. I'm just so happy Shane's people were there to examine his handwraps.

Margarito don't deserve to fight again, his cornermen and team should be kept outside boxing organisation. hell he even shouldn't be allowed to watch the fight.

Cotto's defeat should be scrapped from his record to a non contest. Margarito cheated like this guys years ago whoi fought a brave kid with fake gloves (they removed the protection of gloves). I still see the father examining the gloves at the end of the fight...these people are murderers.

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Billy collins against Luis Resto

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Originally Posted by SEB

Margarito should be banned for life, if some of you question the fact that having plaster in your handwraps can change a fight,it's like having a weapon!

it's cheating, there are no excuses, and he could have killed a boxer that night or the other nights. I'm just so happy Shane's people were there to examine his handwraps.

Margarito don't deserve to fight again, his cornermen and team should be kept outside boxing organisation. hell he even shouldn't be allowed to watch the fight.

Cotto's defeat should be scrapped from his record to a non contest. Margarito cheated like this guys years ago whoi fought a brave kid with fake gloves (they removed the protection of gloves). I still see the father examining the gloves at the end of the fight...these people are murderers.

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And you know what , theres still some peoples that think , that wasnt a Criminal act , can you believe that ?.................;D

Is Cotto still a top rank fighter?

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Originally Posted by Killa From Manila

Is Cotto still a top rank fighter?

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Hes on a slippery slope

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Originally Posted by Killa From Manila

Is Cotto still a top rank fighter?

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His contract is up at the end of this year, and he has already made it clear that he will be looking elsewhere, because of the way that Arum was backing Margacheato.

come on, nobody can make a genuine case for Margarito winning that fight if it went the distance. I'm sorry to say, but up until the last two rounds he was being heavily outclassed by Cotto. If it is conclusive that he cheated leading up to the Mosley fight, it is pretty obvious that he must have done the same against Cotto. As such, take away Margarito's ability to stop Cotto and you have a 118 - 110 ffight to Cotto.