Edison Miranda fights Andre Ward May 16th

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I cant believe you guys are picking an overrated 3 year prospect whose biggest step in competition so far has been my barber

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But seriously Miranda went 0-3 against the top 2 middles in the world and was ducked blatantly by Mikkel Kessler...

So Pantera has a ton more experience and although been stopped twice he is still a ferocious fighter who will beat Ward into submission

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Kessler would have destroyed him, ducked is a overused word, Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Not even close taeth

Kessler had a ridiculous laundry lists of demands and amenities he wanted, kinda like a movie diva in her dressing room type requests like the skin removed from his grapes, naked pictures of Bea Arthur, his own personal ass wiper...

You really take the cake taeth seriously.

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Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Kessler went on to fight 2 nobodies and Mayweather passed on Margarito and instead fought-for and won the lineal Welterweight championship of the world :rolleyes:


Not a real good comparison

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I cant believe you guys are picking an overrated 3 year prospect whose biggest step in competition so far has been my barber

sarcasm

But seriously Miranda went 0-3 against the top 2 middles in the world and was ducked blatantly by Mikkel Kessler...

So Pantera has a ton more experience and although been stopped twice he is still a ferocious fighter who will beat Ward into submission

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Kessler would have destroyed him, ducked is a overused word, Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Not even close taeth

Kessler had a ridiculous laundry lists of demands and amenities he wanted, kinda like a movie diva in her dressing room type requests like the skin removed from his grapes, naked pictures of Bea Arthur, his own personal ass wiper...

You really take the cake taeth seriously.

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Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Kessler went on to fight 2 nobodies and Mayweather passed on Margarito and instead fought-for and won the lineal Welterweight championship of the world :rolleyes:


Not a real good comparison

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Beat me to it....

That's the thing I like best about Miranda; he fights the best.

OK Saddo crew, you guys no doubt have proven to be the most 'intelligent' boxing fans on the web! Who do you guys think would be good sparring for Miranda to prepare for this fight?

Every time Miranda steps up in comp he will lose. But I'm not sure if Ward is a step up.

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Originally Posted by Pantera

OK Saddo crew, you guys no doubt have proven to be the most 'intelligent' boxing fans on the web! Who do you guys think would be good sparring for Miranda to prepare for this fight?

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Great question. Not King Arthur, that's for sure! Don't know.:confused:

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I cant believe you guys are picking an overrated 3 year prospect whose biggest step in competition so far has been my barber

sarcasm

But seriously Miranda went 0-3 against the top 2 middles in the world and was ducked blatantly by Mikkel Kessler...

So Pantera has a ton more experience and although been stopped twice he is still a ferocious fighter who will beat Ward into submission

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Kessler would have destroyed him, ducked is a overused word, Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Yeah the fight with Danilo Hauusler was so much more meaningful. :beat: I agree Kessler would of beat Miranda. But that don't change the fact that Kessler went out like a biitch when he decided to coward out at the last minute.

This is a great crossroads fight! Miranda needs it to move back into the mix & Ward needs to win to establish himself as a contender!

For me its an extremely tough fight to pick but I think Wards speed & better fundermentals will be the deciding difference if he can deal with Pantera's power!

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I cant believe you guys are picking an overrated 3 year prospect whose biggest step in competition so far has been my barber

sarcasm

But seriously Miranda went 0-3 against the top 2 middles in the world and was ducked blatantly by Mikkel Kessler...

So Pantera has a ton more experience and although been stopped twice he is still a ferocious fighter who will beat Ward into submission

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Kessler would have destroyed him, ducked is a overused word, Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Not even close taeth

Kessler had a ridiculous laundry lists of demands and amenities he wanted, kinda like a movie diva in her dressing room type requests like the skin removed from his grapes, naked pictures of Bea Arthur, his own personal ass wiper...

You really take the cake taeth seriously.

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Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Kessler went on to fight 2 nobodies and Mayweather passed on Margarito and instead fought-for and won the lineal Welterweight championship of the world :rolleyes:


Not a real good comparison

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You dont know shit,MORON

KESSLER DUCKS MIRANDA!!!!!

There are a few people in this that keep repeating this.

If you are one of these listen up for once....:

Kessler's team wanted Miranda recognised as the top opponent for Kessler first so that they could make the fight for a belt. As such, the team lobbied the WBA and surprise suprise Miranda got ranked as top contender in the next rankings about 10 days after Miranda's offer. Kessler having worked hard to get Miranda ranked now made his team a better offer. Only to find that suddenly Miranda didn't want any of it

So either he was ducking Miranda OR he was courting the WBA to fiddling the ratings to make the fight look more meaningful?

Either way it's bad.

Miranda much as I like the guy will be outboxed and loose no surprise there miranda is a lot of talk but little skill

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Originally Posted by Pantera

OK Saddo crew, you guys no doubt have proven to be the most 'intelligent' boxing fans on the web! Who do you guys think would be good sparring for Miranda to prepare for this fight?

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OK for a couple of good sparring partners he's going to need guys with speed, power, and superior athletic ability and the guys that fit the bill for that are: Peter Quillin, Jaidon Codrington, Alejandro Berrio, and maybe Yusaf Mack.

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Originally Posted by jangeorg

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Kessler would have destroyed him, ducked is a overused word, Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Not even close taeth

Kessler had a ridiculous laundry lists of demands and amenities he wanted, kinda like a movie diva in her dressing room type requests like the skin removed from his grapes, naked pictures of Bea Arthur, his own personal ass wiper...

You really take the cake taeth seriously.

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Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Kessler went on to fight 2 nobodies and Mayweather passed on Margarito and instead fought-for and won the lineal Welterweight championship of the world :rolleyes:


Not a real good comparison

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You dont know shit,MORON

KESSLER DUCKS MIRANDA!!!!!

There are a few people in this that keep repeating this.

If you are one of these listen up for once....:

Kessler's team wanted Miranda recognised as the top opponent for Kessler first so that they could make the fight for a belt. As such, the team lobbied the WBA and surprise suprise Miranda got ranked as top contender in the next rankings about 10 days after Miranda's offer. Kessler having worked hard to get Miranda ranked now made his team a better offer. Only to find that suddenly Miranda didn't want any of it

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Dont be calling out Moran...
You listen up!

I will tell you EXACTLY how it went down:

Yes, it is true that Palle has great pull with the WBA and indeed worked to get Miranda ranked high enough to make the fight for a possible vacant title. Miranda made it very very clear he wanted to fight Kessler. A vacant title would have made it that much more desirable for Miranda! The fight was as good as done. Kessler's team ask for a movie star list of demands, and Miranda's team (wanting the fight so badly) agreed to each and every one. Then, out of nowhere, Palle disappeared and returned no calls, not from Miranda's team, not from HBO. There were deadlines to meet for HBO and they came and went. Sauerland came along during this time and offered for Abraham to come to the States and settle the score. With no Kessler in sight and the deadline passed, Miranda was happy to take this opportunity and signed the deal. After it was publically known that Showtime had sealed the Miranda vs Abraham II deal, Palle shows back up and starts acting like Miranda backed out of the fight with Kessler.

So, you make the call. Was it Kessler ducking Miranda? Or was it Palle ducking the fight? Who knows. But the bottom line is, Miranda wanted that fight and Kessler's team was at fault for it slipping through their hands.

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Originally Posted by jangeorg

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Kessler would have destroyed him, ducked is a overused word, Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Not even close taeth

Kessler had a ridiculous laundry lists of demands and amenities he wanted, kinda like a movie diva in her dressing room type requests like the skin removed from his grapes, naked pictures of Bea Arthur, his own personal ass wiper...

You really take the cake taeth seriously.

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Kessler knew it was useless to fight him, just like Mayweather did about Margarito.

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Kessler went on to fight 2 nobodies and Mayweather passed on Margarito and instead fought-for and won the lineal Welterweight championship of the world :rolleyes:


Not a real good comparison

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You dont know shit,MORON

KESSLER DUCKS MIRANDA!!!!!

There are a few people in this that keep repeating this.

If you are one of these listen up for once....:

Kessler's team wanted Miranda recognised as the top opponent for Kessler first so that they could make the fight for a belt. As such, the team lobbied the WBA and surprise suprise Miranda got ranked as top contender in the next rankings about 10 days after Miranda's offer. Kessler having worked hard to get Miranda ranked now made his team a better offer. Only to find that suddenly Miranda didn't want any of it

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You sure you wanna go there dude?

Pantera knows the score just like me, you can bullshit all you want but the facts are the facts and you dont have to go below the surface to find them..

It is Kessler who has made a career of fighting the weakest possible opposition aside from Calzaghe.. Who incidentally boxed Mikkels ears off

So even if this was wild speculation from either of us, its reasonable to conclude Kessler is the yellow belly. Miranda has the far better resume win or lose and would fight Wlad Klitschko for a beer if he had the opportunity.

I think Ward's people are doing the right thing, its time to step up, if he's gonna be on the top level he's gotta beat people like Miranda. And if he's just got an irreparable chin issue then well it would be found out at some point anyway.