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04-06-2009, 10:46 PM
XaduBoxer

Re: Not impressed with Valero

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I don't think Pitalua qualifies as a serious test to see if he can handle elite fighters and I wouldn't rush him into fighting somebody like JMM just yet. Maybe somebody like David Diaz next. He's great to watch though, I'd love to see him go on a tear over a couple of weight divisions. But that chin doesn't half stick out a lot.

Valero and David Diaz are friends... ;)

I think Valero loves to knock out JMM more ...

http://xs538.xs.to/xs538/09151/w195.jpg

;D
04-07-2009, 11:21 AM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Not impressed with Valero

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I don't think Pitalua qualifies as a serious test to see if he can handle elite fighters and I wouldn't rush him into fighting somebody like JMM just yet. Maybe somebody like David Diaz next. He's great to watch though, I'd love to see him go on a tear over a couple of weight divisions. But that chin doesn't half stick out a lot.

Valero and David Diaz are friends... ;)

I think Valero loves to knock out JMM more ...

http://xs538.xs.to/xs538/09151/w195.jpg

;D

being friends has nothing to do with anything

Trindad/Jones Jr are friends and i've seen Jones with Trinidad plenty of times at the cock fights
and there have been plenty of other fights between friends

as for JMM Vs Valero, i'd say that Marquez would most likely outbox him and counter him all night
04-07-2009, 11:28 AM
JazMerkin

Re: Not impressed with Valero

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I don't think Pitalua qualifies as a serious test to see if he can handle elite fighters and I wouldn't rush him into fighting somebody like JMM just yet. Maybe somebody like David Diaz next. He's great to watch though, I'd love to see him go on a tear over a couple of weight divisions. But that chin doesn't half stick out a lot.

Valero and David Diaz are friends... ;)

I think Valero loves to knock out JMM more ...

http://xs538.xs.to/xs538/09151/w195.jpg

;D

being friends has nothing to do with anything

Trindad/Jones Jr are friends and i've seen Jones with Trinidad plenty of times at the cock fights
and there have been plenty of other fights between friends

as for JMM Vs Valero, i'd say that Marquez would most likely outbox him and counter him all night

Attend a lot of cock fights do ya?? ;)
04-07-2009, 11:48 AM
XaduBoxer

Re: Not impressed with Valero

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I don't think Pitalua qualifies as a serious test to see if he can handle elite fighters and I wouldn't rush him into fighting somebody like JMM just yet. Maybe somebody like David Diaz next. He's great to watch though, I'd love to see him go on a tear over a couple of weight divisions. But that chin doesn't half stick out a lot.

Valero and David Diaz are friends... ;)

I think Valero loves to knock out JMM more ...

http://xs538.xs.to/xs538/09151/w195.jpg

;D

being friends has nothing to do with anything

Trindad/Jones Jr are friends and i've seen Jones with Trinidad plenty of times at the cock fights
and there have been plenty of other fights between friends

as for JMM Vs Valero, i'd say that Marquez would most likely outbox him and counter him all night

JMM needs to be careful with southpaw Valero... Southpaws PAC and Norwood successfully scored several KDs on JMM... Southpaws Jaendaeng and Jaca scored some beautiful left hands on JMM...

Now imagine if Valero can knockdown JMM... it will be over...
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04-07-2009, 12:26 PM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Not impressed with Valero

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Valero and David Diaz are friends... ;)

I think Valero loves to knock out JMM more ...

http://xs538.xs.to/xs538/09151/w195.jpg

;D

being friends has nothing to do with anything

Trindad/Jones Jr are friends and i've seen Jones with Trinidad plenty of times at the cock fights
and there have been plenty of other fights between friends

as for JMM Vs Valero, i'd say that Marquez would most likely outbox him and counter him all night

Attend a lot of cock fights do ya?? ;)

well i was gonna refer to it as it's called here in PR (peleas de gallos) but knew most of you wouldn't know what i'm talking about, you cheeky bastard ;D lol
04-07-2009, 01:47 PM
Spicoli

Re: Not impressed with Valero

Im thinking Humberto Soto can beat Valero.
04-07-2009, 04:56 PM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Not impressed with Valero

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

Im thinking Humberto Soto can beat Valero.

Soto looked great in his last fight, and he seems to really be driven right now
04-07-2009, 06:11 PM
CutMeMick

Re: Not impressed with Valero

Valeros def. put himself in the spotlight now.

Things are heating up in the divisions at 135 & 140.

For those who are asking how Valero will handle going deep into a fight (Although this was 3 yrs. ago) he went to the 10th round vs. Mosquera who IMO is/was a top opponent and champ at that time. Mosquera also knocks Valero down in the 3rd round.
I think the fight is on YouTube for those who have not seen it.

Jaz & TerribleMorales you guys should know by now that SaddoBoxer just likes to post whatever thoughts pop into his head without regards to the comments being crazy or randome or not.
04-07-2009, 09:37 PM
XaduBoxer

Re: Not impressed with Valero

Quote:

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Valeros def. put himself in the spotlight now.

Things are heating up in the divisions at 135 & 140.

For those who are asking how Valero will handle going deep into a fight (Although this was 3 yrs. ago) he went to the 10th round vs. Mosquera who IMO is/was a top opponent and champ at that time. Mosquera also knocks Valero down in the 3rd round.
I think the fight is on YouTube for those who have not seen it.

Jaz & TerribleMorales you guys should know by now that SaddoBoxer just likes to post whatever thoughts pop into his head without regards to the comments being crazy or random or not.

Again some random post...

JMM needs to be careful with southpaw Valero... Southpaws PAC and Norwood successfully scored several KDs on JMM... Southpaws Jaendaeng and Jaca scored some beautiful left hands on JMM...

Now imagine if Valero can knockdown JMM... it will be over...

Peace...
.
04-07-2009, 10:24 PM
Kel

Re: Not impressed with Valero

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Quote:

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Valeros def. put himself in the spotlight now.

Things are heating up in the divisions at 135 & 140.

For those who are asking how Valero will handle going deep into a fight (Although this was 3 yrs. ago) he went to the 10th round vs. Mosquera who IMO is/was a top opponent and champ at that time. Mosquera also knocks Valero down in the 3rd round.
I think the fight is on YouTube for those who have not seen it.

Jaz & TerribleMorales you guys should know by now that SaddoBoxer just likes to post whatever thoughts pop into his head without regards to the comments being crazy or random or not.

Again some random post...

JMM needs to be careful with southpaw Valero... Southpaws PAC and Norwood successfully scored several KDs on JMM... Southpaws Jaendaeng and Jaca scored some beautiful left hands on JMM...

Now imagine if Valero can knockdown JMM... it will be over...

Peace...
.

You already wrote that a couple of posts ago.

Valero to me makes 135 more exiting. A strong division, he is now among the top guys. Some great fights to come I hope.
04-08-2009, 02:17 PM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Not impressed with Valero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kel

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Quote:

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Valeros def. put himself in the spotlight now.

Things are heating up in the divisions at 135 & 140.

For those who are asking how Valero will handle going deep into a fight (Although this was 3 yrs. ago) he went to the 10th round vs. Mosquera who IMO is/was a top opponent and champ at that time. Mosquera also knocks Valero down in the 3rd round.
I think the fight is on YouTube for those who have not seen it.

Jaz & TerribleMorales you guys should know by now that SaddoBoxer just likes to post whatever thoughts pop into his head without regards to the comments being crazy or random or not.

Again some random post...

JMM needs to be careful with southpaw Valero... Southpaws PAC and Norwood successfully scored several KDs on JMM... Southpaws Jaendaeng and Jaca scored some beautiful left hands on JMM...

Now imagine if Valero can knockdown JMM... it will be over...

Peace...
.

You already wrote that a couple of posts ago.

Valero to me makes 135 more exiting. A strong division, he is now among the top guys. Some great fights to come I hope.

i think that the perfect fight at 135 right now would be Valero vs Guzman, Valero can prove he's the real deal against Guzman, and a strong win against Valero can vindicate Guzman, what are your thoughts?
04-08-2009, 03:18 PM
Killa From Manila

Re: Not impressed with Valero

Looks like we're gonna see Marquez-Valero this year...

ARUM TELLS MARQUEZ THE ROAD TO PACQUIAO IS THROUGH VALERO
By Ben Thompson, FightHype.com, Wed, 08 Apr 2009
http://fighthype.com/images/content/edwinvalero.jpg
04-09-2009, 03:22 AM
fan johnny

Re: Not impressed with Valero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killa From Manila

Looks like we're gonna see Marquez-Valero this year...

ARUM TELLS MARQUEZ THE ROAD TO PACQUIAO IS THROUGH VALERO
By Ben Thompson, FightHype.com, Wed, 08 Apr 2009
http://fighthype.com/images/content/edwinvalero.jpg

Marquez won't do it unless Pacquiao beats Hatton and takes on someone else... Arum is fishing for Valero... pushing to make the biggest money match up. Personally, I think Marquez should take the fight because it will build up an even bigger fight with Pacquiao should they both win. After all that IS what it's all about.......;D
04-09-2009, 05:31 PM
Mar

Re: Not impressed with Valero

Seems like a lot of people aren't impressed with the guy....then they wake up on thier stool wondering what happened to the fight and why is there a dr shining a light in my eyes....i'm not all hyped up on the guy but 25-0 with 25 ko's even fighting espn level fighters aint bad. He hasn't had the chance to look all that bad yet, he comes in swings his arms and flies back to ven, time will tell i guess.
04-09-2009, 06:26 PM
fan johnny

Re: Not impressed with Valero

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Originally Posted by Mar

Seems like a lot of people aren't impressed with the guy....then they wake up on thier stool wondering what happened to the fight and why is there a dr shining a light in my eyes....i'm not all hyped up on the guy but 25-0 with 25 ko's even fighting espn level fighters aint bad. He hasn't had the chance to look all that bad yet, he comes in swings his arms and flies back to ven, time will tell i guess.

Some of us are just naturally lazy, but if you look at his opponent's history (I didn't before your post) Edwin Valero you won't be so impressed either. Valero hasn't started facing decent opponents until his last 5 or 6 fights.

So after putting in a little reading work, I've changed my opinion to that of being more reserved about Valero and agree with Kirkland. Valero might prolong his career at the top if he faces challengers rather that facing more quality fighters at the top.

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