JOE CALZAGHE was a better champ than JOE LOUIS

Did he honestly give Billy Conn a lower ranking than Sakio Bika?

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Originally Posted by RP33

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Originally Posted by Diane

I think Seanie and Saddoboxer, attended the same special education classes. ;) ;D

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LOL!.. to be completely honest, we should have a humurous thread area on the board.. any threads like these can be moved to that area. Visit it on a rainy day.

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We would have to make sure that Saddo fixed it, so that everytime those two make a new thread, it automatically defaults to that section, no matter where they try to post it. ;D

This is the bastard that took Sean's name.

Imo, Joe Louise is #5 ATG p4p. Calzaghe is #50 (and that is a great compliment).

lmao i swear the way people overated calzaghe you think they worship him

Sorry but as pointed out, your post is clearly not unbiased. 8/10 for a well passed-it Chris Eubank? Please..

I'm a Calzaghe fan, he had a smashing career and some very good wins. You can't compare him to Joe Louis though in any way, shape or form in my mind.

Well for one thing they are form different time and eras and there eras are very far apart so it makes it even harder to judge them tell you truth. Louis fought so many bums they gave it a name Bum of the month club. As for Calzaghe well he fought alot bums so no one knew who he fuck he was so they did not even bother giving it a name i guess i dont care for either of them but both were good champions in there time but there is no way in hell you can compare them at all though.

Joe Calzaghe beats any fighter in the history of boxing at any weight, except for Manny Pac.

Seannie what kind of drugs are you on anyway. How did some obscure 4 round exhibition match get into Louis' record as a title fight? Johnny Davis?? Hell I thought you had a seizure and started loading in 1980s light heavy challengers into this thread. Hell the old Ring Record Book never showed this damn thing.

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Originally Posted by miles

Joe Calzaghe beats any fighter in the history of boxing at any weight, except for Manny Pac.

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Have to give you credit for your opinion.

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Originally Posted by miles

Joe Calzaghe beats any fighter in the history of boxing at any weight, except for Manny Pac.

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:-\ he was given a gift against B-Hop, so dont' see how he beats any fighter in the history of boxing at any weight

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by miles

Joe Calzaghe beats any fighter in the history of boxing at any weight, except for Manny Pac.

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:-\ he was given a gift against B-Hop, so dont' see how he beats any fighter in the history of boxing at any weight

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Calzaghe had an off night, but still outworked BHop quite handily IMO.

The post you are quoting was tongue in cheek anyway, so I should have used this smiley :p with it.

Different era, different fighters, different weight, different social times, different politics .......in my opinion Barry McGuigan should have fought Mike Tyson at catch weight, I give Barry 8.92 out of 11 against Tysons other opponents 2, who would have won between Basil Brush and Captain Pugwash........blah blah blah

Joe must have been quite liked though, he has an arena named after him with a statue in there and a big fist sculpture in his honour........

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

Below is my unbiased rating of Joe Louis and Joe Calzaghe's World title opponents.

Their opponents will be rated, as they would of pre fight. There will be no retrospective rating. Each opponent will be ranked from 0 to 10.

Obviously Louis had a few more title fights than Calzaghe, but I will give and overall percentage rating average of there opposition.

If anyone disputes my ratings of each boxers opponents. Then rank them yourself and see who you think is the best champion.

Joe Louis V James Braddock. Braddock was a career light heavy who returned to boxing to make money for his family. Not a particular heavy hitter @ Light Heavy, he managed to Floor Louis in the 1st round before losing in the 8th round. I’d have to rank Braddock at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Louis 5/10

Joe Calzaghe V Chris Eubank. Eubank was a former WBO middle & Super Middle champion who’s only two loses had come on close decisions to Steve Collins. Calzaghe floored Eubank in the first round and pounded out a conclusive unanimous decision. I’d have to rank Eubank at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Calzaghe as 8/10. I was tempted to give a 9.

Joe Louis V Tommy Farr. Farr was like Braddock a light heavyweight who had gone up to Heavyweight and he managed to give Louis a tough and close fight according to two of the scorecards in a 15 round fight. I rate Farr at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Louis 3/10

Joe Calzaghe V Branko Sobot. Sobot was a good level European fighter whose only loss up to this point had been on points to Hacine Cherifi. Calzaghe stopped him in the 3rd round for an easy first defence. I rate Sobot at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Calzaghe 7/10

Joe Louis V Nathan Mann. Mann was a pretty average heavyweight who had suffered four loses to not so great heavyweights. What he was doing in a world title fight is beyond me. I rate Mann at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Louis 3/10

Joe Calzaghe V Juan Carlos Giminez Ferreyra. Giminez was a former three times World title challenger and had never previously been stopped. He had lost his major fights by a fairly large point’s margin. I rate Giminez at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Calzaghe 6/10

Joe Louis V Harry Thomas. Prior to challenging Louis Thomas had lost two of his previous four bouts one by stoppage. He would in my book be rated a very unworthy challenger for the title. I rate Thomas at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Louis 2/10

Joe Calzaghe V Robin Reid. Reid was a former WBC champ who had lost his title to the tricky Thulani Malinga. Since the Malinga loss Reid had one win. Reid managed to take Calzaghe to a split decision. I rate Reid at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Calzaghe 7/10

Joe Louis V Max Schmeling. Schmeling had previous koed Louis in 10 rounds and was undefeated since. This is Louis first defence were the standard of his opposition could truly be called world class. I rate Schmeling at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Louis 10/10. There is no way he could be ranked lower. Probably the finest win of Louis career.

Joe Calzaghe V Rick Thornberry. Thornberry had suffered two stoppage loses in his career before facing Calzaghe. He was an average fighter. I rate Thornberry at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Calzaghe 4/10.

Joe Louis V John Henry Lewis. Lewis was The Light Heavyweight champion and you could argue that he was a suitable opponent for Louis. I rate Lewis at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Louis 5/10.

Joe Calzaghe V David Starie. Staries only previous defeat had been a stoppage defeat. He had won 8 fights since this loss before challenging Calzaghe. I rate Starie at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Calzaghe 5/10.

Joe Louis V Jack Roper. Roper had suffered thirteen previous KO loses before meeting Louis including 4 in the first round. At this stage of his career I can only give him 0/10. He was a truly awful title challenger.

Joe Calzaghe V Omar Sheika. Sheika was a hyped up prospect who had lost on points to English journeyman Tony Booth and had built his record on has beens and never will been’s. I rate Sheika at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Calzaghe 4/10.

Joe Louis V Tony Galento. Galento was a fat average heavyweight who boxed mostly average boxers throughout his career. At this stage of his career I can only give him 2/10.

Joe Calzaghe V Richie Woodhall. Woodhall was an ex WBC champ who was coming to the end of his career. He had lost his WBC title to Marcus Beyer. I rate Woodhall at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Calzaghe 6/10.

Joe Louis V Bob Pastor. Pastor had lost to Louis before he became champ and also lost to Nathan Mann who I rated 3/10. There for I can only give Pastor 2/10.

Joe Calzaghe V Mario Veit. Veit had padded his 30 – 0 record against bums. That said he was undefeated so I rate him at this stage of his career 6/10.

Joe Louis V Arturo Godoy. Godoy would win a few then lose. He was an ok heavyweight, but pre fight you wouldn’t have given him much chance against Louis.
I rate Godov at this stage of his career as a suitable opponent for Louis 3/10.

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The Sobot rating is a real funny one lol :LOLATYOU: he was usless before and after the Calzaghe fight.