Re: Fighters who were never the same after losing once
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Big Dick Whittington
Fernando Vargas.Tito took his soul and I'm not one for 'what ifs' but i still say Fernando was turning it around untill a succession of low blows stole his legs .
That is still the best fight in living memory for me but the beating Fernando took at the end of such a gruelling fight and at such a young age , no way he could have recovered.
honestly i agree with you that Vargas could have been something great, but i don't think the low blows were intentional same as in the Cotto/Judah fight
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Big Dick Whittington
Fernando Vargas.Tito took his soul and I'm not one for 'what ifs' but i still say Fernando was turning it around untill a succession of low blows stole his legs .
That is still the best fight in living memory for me but the beating Fernando took at the end of such a gruelling fight and at such a young age , no way he could have recovered.
First of all, there was one low blow not a "succession." Second, the reason the fight went on so long was because after Vargas knockdown of Trinidad and Tito's subsequent low blow, Vargas thumbed Trinidad, severely limiting Tito's vision for the rest of the fight. That occurred in the fifth round, if I am not mistaken. Just check a video of the fight.
there were 2 low blows, one he got a warning and the 2nd he got a point deducted, and the thumb was also unintentional cause first off they were using gloves with the thumbs sown attached to the golve, just a mishap
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Rican
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Big Dick Whittington
Fernando Vargas.Tito took his soul and I'm not one for 'what ifs' but i still say Fernando was turning it around untill a succession of low blows stole his legs .
That is still the best fight in living memory for me but the beating Fernando took at the end of such a gruelling fight and at such a young age , no way he could have recovered.
First of all, there was one low blow not a "succession." Second, the reason the fight went on so long was because after Vargas knockdown of Trinidad and Tito's subsequent low blow, Vargas thumbed Trinidad, severely limiting Tito's vision for the rest of the fight. That occurred in the fifth round, if I am not mistaken. Just check a video of the fight.
Tito intentionally hit Vargas low after the knockdown to buy himself some time! Watch the fight without being biased and you will see that I am right.
:Oops: Low blow!!!!!
and don't start with that bullshit against, the gap from the 2nd low blow to the final round was plenty of time for Vargas to get his legs back, and they weren't intentional same as in Cotto/Judah, Trinidad always had the tendency to shoot the left hook, and more than a couple times he'd hit low, but never looked like it was on purpose, on that note Tito was never really the same after his loss to B-Hop
Re: Fighters who were never the same after losing once
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Mugabi....Jirov (should have left Hvys alone)....in an odd way David Tua...Curry,Meldrick Taylor.....Shame really.Do we really know a fighter until they have to return from a loss ?
Excellent call on Mugabi, never the same after Hagler dished out a return bully session to the "Beast" . Also Curry, he was just so shocked at losing his new SRL tag, give him his dues though he did try but as the thread says was never the same.
It was as if his aura of invinsability desolved after that fight.He was all heart and fury there with Hagler and then fell apart next time out with Thomas.He rode his power to a title but never the same. Curry...man he had everything on his shoulders.The weight of the media and publics obsession with finding/creating the "next" this or that.We do it every generation it seems.He was no Leonard.
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Jeff Lacy comes to mind straight away.
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Michael Grant after Lennox
Bojado after Rubio
Zarate after Gomez
Naz after MAB
Garza after Meza
Moore after Duran
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Naz tops them all for me.
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Louis Veader after Micky Ward
Foreman after Ali - did anybody mention that?
Michael Nunn after James Toney.
Re: Fighters who were never the same after losing once
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Louis Veader after Micky Ward
Foreman after Ali - did anybody mention that?
Michael Nunn after James Toney.
shouldn't be mentioned because 10 yrs later he came back stronger than ever, hello, he knocked out Moorer to become the oldest champion ever
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Meldrick Taylor comes to mind. Hector Camacho maybe?
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Acelino 'sob & sniffle' Freitas vs. Diego Corrales
How about Jeff Fenech after Azumah Nelson 'Draw' and drubbing in rematch.Granted he won the rubber match :-X;D
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actually I agree with the 1st poster---Foreman IS a good example, even though the second poster is quite correct that he came back and won the title again 15 years later---actually 20 years later after Zaire. Wow that really is amazing, even though Moorer wasn't what we thought he was. (I saw "we" for politeness' sake)
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Felix Trinidad comes to mind after the Hopkins fight as does Naz. Montell Griffin after Jones destroyed him in 1. Dariusz Michalczewski after the Julio Gonzalez fight.
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Doesn't exactly fit the topic but after being robbed of a win by Taylor I think Winky just looks like he can't be bothered any more.
Re: Fighters who were never the same after losing once
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David Reid, after being touted as the next Sugar Ray, was never ever the same after that sudden and "unexpected" loss to Tito Trinidad, and has he ever fought again since that day? I'll go to Boxing Records and check in a minute, but I would be surprised if he did put on the gloves again.
He fought 3 times after. And the loss was not unexpected. Reid was almost a one eye fighter. He was a loss waiting to happen. That's why he cashed out against Trinidad
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Most notable one IMO is Meldrick Taylor after his lose to Julio Cesar Chavez.
That's cuz Chavez ruined him.
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Mark TKO
if Haye is sparked by Wlad we won't see him again I reckon
I'm sure the Wlad loss won't be his last
Re: Fighters who were never the same after losing once
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Big Dick Whittington
Fernando Vargas.Tito took his soul and I'm not one for 'what ifs' but i still say Fernando was turning it around untill a succession of low blows stole his legs .
That is still the best fight in living memory for me but the beating Fernando took at the end of such a gruelling fight and at such a young age , no way he could have recovered.
I think that's BS he fought with all the heart in the world against Oscar, its just Oscar was too good of a boxer for him.
