Re: How Did You See Oscar's Close fights?
WOW! I can see how you gave certain fighters the nod (Oscar over Whitaker, Oscar over Quartey, Shane over Oscar, Trinidad over Oscar). Eventhough our opinions mostly differed on those, I could see where you're coming from. But to have Sturm and Mayweather's fights with Oscar as both draws?! That's a bit off...
Re: How Did You See Oscar's Close fights?
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Can you take Mayweather off that list, just seeing that up there makes me know i will be angry for Decades having to listen how a great boxing effort by Mayweather will be soiled by meaningless flurries and screaming fans. Mayweather's defense was amazing in that fight, he out jabbed Oscar almost 2 to 1, he hurt Oscar, he stood toe to toe, he took Oscar's best shots, he countered OScar off the ropes, he made Oscar look stupid when Oscar had him on the ropes.
It somehow sounds as if Oscar got a totally complete embarrassing punishment with Floyd. Nope, it was far from that for BOTH fighters. Reason why lots of people found the fight boring because BOTH didn't really do much. BOTH guys came out clean after the fight. Even if there were times where Oscar kept hitting Floyd left hooks to the body while on the ropes, hurt or not, those are still points.
I don't remember if you disklike Oscar or not but there are other guys out there who might be influenced to say that Oscar got a complete beating vs Floyd simply because they don't like Oscar.
Re: How Did You See Oscar's Close fights?
HattonHammer I have every fight scored the opposite of you. Anyone who thinks the Sturm fight was a draw needs their eyes checked. Even if he on the first 5 rounds he didn't win that fight and only maybe earned a draw. But he didn't win the first 5 rounds in fact it wasn't even half that. That was the absolute worst Oscar looked in any fight ever with the exception of the Pac fight.
Re: How Did You See Oscar's Close fights?
Oscar vs Whitaker = draw for me. I remember thinking the knockdown was bogus and the deduction
Oscar over Quartey but don't remember the score
Oscar over Tito 7 rounds to 5
Oscar over Mosely II dont remember score
Sturm over Oscar dont remember score
PBF 7 rounds to Oscar 5
Re: How Did You See Oscar's Close fights?
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Whittaker - 114-112 - de la hoya did more than enough to win the fight
Quartey - 113-112 de-la hoya dead level going into the last but a stunning comeback from oscar who almost got ike out of there at the end.
Trinidad - 115-113 Trinidad de la hoya dominated the 1st half of the fight but faded badly towards the end and i think ended up losing the last 5 odd rounds.
Mosley II - 115-113 Mosley I had shane outworking him for a second successive narrow win.
Sturm - 114-114 Draw Those that claim sturm was completely robbed obviously didnt pay close enough attention to the fight. The 3 same scorecards did seem a bit suspiscious but its not the 1st time and wont be the last will it.
Mayweather - 114-114 Draw Arguably oscars best performance of his career and having watched the fight over and over again i still have ODLH doing enough to take 6 rounds, had he not of faded towards the end he would of pulled it off!
Sorry i know this is your opinion but i have no idea how you have, Felix Sturm vs ODLH a draw. I've never seen anyone that thought ODLH done enough to earn a draw. He was completely confused and outscored by Felix Strum's superb left jab, ODLH looked wild and desperate with his combination's. One of his worst performances and he for certain lost that fight.
ODLH vs Floyd Mayweather Jr again is way off, you obviously didn't pay enough attention to the fight. ODLH landed nothing of any substance Floyd Mayweather landed the cleaner more accurate shots and alot more of them. And if anyone had the fight close after 9 rounds, Floyd Mayweather Jr sealed the deal quite easily in the last few rounds.
Im not gonna go off at you too much for the Ike Quartey/ODLH fight, because that was close. But too me the rounds were pretty easy to score and at best, ODLH was 2 points behind going into the 12th. He was constantly outscored by Ike Quartey's jab. And he knew himself how desperate the situation was. Again it was close but IMO ODLH was outboxed and outscored against an opponent with the better jab, it was mostly a jab match and i felt Ike Quartey was able to work his jab more effectively. And at best ODLH may of earned a draw.
As for the orginal question i can't remember my exact scores but i do remember who i had winning and it goes like this.
Whitaker = Draw
Quartey = Quartey
Trinidad = Draw
Mosley II = ODLH
Sturm = Sturm
Mayweather = Mayweather
Re: How Did You See Oscar's Close fights?
I saw some on the telly and some on the tinternet
Re: How Did You See Oscar's Close fights?
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Taeth
Can you take Mayweather off that list, just seeing that up there makes me know i will be angry for Decades having to listen how a great boxing effort by Mayweather will be soiled by meaningless flurries and screaming fans. Mayweather's defense was amazing in that fight, he out jabbed Oscar almost 2 to 1, he hurt Oscar, he stood toe to toe, he took Oscar's best shots, he countered OScar off the ropes, he made Oscar look stupid when Oscar had him on the ropes.
It somehow sounds as if Oscar got a totally complete embarrassing punishment with Floyd. Nope, it was far from that for BOTH fighters. Reason why lots of people found the fight boring because BOTH didn't really do much. BOTH guys came out clean after the fight. Even if there were times where Oscar kept hitting Floyd left hooks to the body while on the ropes, hurt or not, those are still points.
I don't remember if you disklike Oscar or not but there are other guys out there who might be influenced to say that Oscar got a complete beating vs Floyd simply because they don't like Oscar.
Sorry Oscar is one of my favorite fighters ever, but it wasn't a beat down until the late rounds, but before that it was competitive, but clearly Mayweather was landing the better punches. Oscar's pressure counts for something, but not as much as the clean, precise punches Mayweather was dolling out.