Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

I'm giving JMM a chance because of his counterpunching. he's also able to recover very fast.

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Originally Posted by Andre

Jm has a good beard ,he will be hungry for this more than Floyd will be.

If he can somehow make Floyd come at him then he may catch Floyd in rethinking mode; cause Floyd is great at reading and dealing with people as they are comming so he 's got you fully read and his style covers ,interrupts then deals out. Reverse that a few times and you may have an opening to go on.
I think Floyd may stop him though,he'll have Jmm under a microscope even now.

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I think its a terrible idea to let Floyd lead, he is way too fast and doesn't leave openings, watch him against G. Hernandez or late against OScar, you can't react when he is leading, and unlike Pacquiao he wouldn't be open for counters, you have to keep him the defensive, you are going to get countered, but at least you won't get hit as much.

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Originally Posted by Jesse James

Yeah but it seems to me that Floyd has become somewhat lazy in the ring. He likes to just lay back and pot shot, when was the last time he's really had to work 3 minutes of every round? I think JMM will put the pressure on him, but it's not like Hatton pressure where it's a lot of holding and mauling. He will be punching with accuracy. Floyd obviously has the advantage, but JMM just might give him all he can handle. I like this fight.

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He worked hard 3 minutes of every round against Hatton, you try fighting defensively with as much upper body movement as Floyd does, its not easy, nor is it an experience that makes you feel "lazy" afterwards.

Marquez isn't much of a threat to Floyd at 143.

Marquez is a small lightweight. I personally think anything above 135 is too much for him.

Marquez is a great fighter but is simply too small to bother Floyd.

Anyone know if this is going to be on PPV or HBO? I thought I read somewhere a little while ago that this fight would be on normal HBO to build the next fight up for a huge PPV.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

PBF is undoubtedly my favorite fighter in boxing right now, and second ever next to RJJ, but this is why Marquez is a live threat.

1. Speed: Sure Mayweather is super fast, but he is defensive first. Marquez is the second fastest guy he will have ever been in the ring with, and unlike Oscar or Judah when they fought Mayweather, he will throw back when he gets hit, and with astonishing accuracy.
2. Output: We saw Marquez throw a ton of punches against Diaz, if Mayweather fights too defensively, we will see him unable to return fire against Marquez.
3. Skill: Marquez is clearly the best fighter Mayweather has ever faced. He's not as technically skilled as Mayweather or as hard to hit, but he counters beautifully and makes up for his lack of defense in offensive skill, not only that but he also has a great chin, and I think its more than up to the task to withstand Mayweather's power.
4. Sharpness: Mayweather has been out of the game for awhile, Marquez's greatest skill is how sharp he is, he jumps on every oppertunity with supreme confidence, this could be his downfall against the fast counter punching Mayweather, but if Mayweather comes in anything less than the sharpest he has ever been than he is in trouble.

Mayweather gets caught up in his own skill, and doesn't really push to win rounds, while Marquez is a warrior who will do anything possible to win rounds and fights, that could be a huge factor in this fight. Mayweather could be doing great defensive work, but if he doesn't throw punches then he won't win rounds, and he will fight IMO differently in this fight in order to win. I think we could see a more exciting fight than most people are expecting.

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You have very valid points, but here's why Marquez isn't as much of a threat as you think he is:

1. Marquez is a notoriously slow starter. 3 knockdowns versus Pacquiao in their first fight. Juan Diaz pummeled him for 6 rounds before he came on. Mayweather is very ring intelligent and knows how to zoom in on someone's weakness.

2. Marquez is fighting at his highest ever weight whereas Mayweather is coming down a few pounds. Unlike Oscar, going down won't be a problem for Mayweather. He only gains a few pounds in between fights and if you saw him in that commercial he stayed pretty shredded.

3. Chin and power. Not Marquez's, Mayweather's. Both are very underrated because they are both under-utilized. Mayweather can take a shot if need be and when he cracked Hatton with that hook he hurt him. He was hurting Judah over the course of several rounds. Marquez has a great chin too, but we don't know if he can handle it from Floyd whereas Floyd has been hit by stronger fighters in Judah and De La Hoya.

4. I hate to say it, but homecourt advantage. Mayweather is the more known fighter and there is every likelihood that given a close round judges might favor him.

Marquez does have the ability to beat Floyd. Where so many others failed was by falling into Floyd's traps. They always let Floyd dictate the flow. Hatton and Oscar both did the same thing. Marquez is probably the smartest fighter in the ring today. His biggest obsticle will be coming out of the first 3 rounds unscathed. After that, he will be in the fight.

If Marquez can withstand Floyd's precision punching, he just may be able to drag the fight deep enough and throw Floyd off with his own precision punching. It will not be easy but anything can happen. He just has to make sure he is the counter puncher in the fight and not Floyd and to also pick his spots to get aggressive.