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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Your right. He's also good for head butting ring postsQuote:
Originally Posted by KostyaTszyuTeam
As you are for pointing out the blatantly obvious every single thread and making yourself look like the utter prick you are over and over again!!
Id very much like to kick you in the bollocks...
I'm sure you would like to. But you can't. If we were ever to meet up face to face I would beat the fukk out of you. That's something i have no doubt aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYour right. He's also good for head butting ring postsQuote:
Originally Posted by KostyaTszyuTeam
As you are for pointing out the blatantly obvious every single thread and making yourself look like the utter prick you are over and over again!!
Id very much like to kick you in the bollocks...
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'm sure you would like to. But you can't. If we were ever to meet up face to face I would beat the fukk out of you. That's something i have no doubt aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
As you are for pointing out the blatantly obvious every single thread and making yourself look like the utter prick you are over and over again!!
Id very much like to kick you in the bollocks...
:lol::lol:
always good for a laugh you are demise
next time your in the UK dont be a stranger eh!!
I'll be having breakfeast at your shack. I don't give a fukk if you like it or notQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'm sure you would like to. But you can't. If we were ever to meet up face to face I would beat the fukk out of you. That's something i have no doubt aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
:lol::lol:
always good for a laugh you are demise
next time your in the UK dont be a stranger eh!!
VD if you look at your sports book prediciton and prediciton you had Ricky to win KO whats this about mate?
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'll be having breakfeast at your shack. I don't give a fukk if you like it or notQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
:lol::lol:
always good for a laugh you are demise
next time your in the UK dont be a stranger eh!!
only breakfast you`d get round mine would be a 3 course thumping that would follow you being thrown into the nearest ditch to sleep off your headache!!
quality;DQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'll be having breakfeast at your shack. I don't give a fukk if you like it or notQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
only breakfast you`d get round mine would be a 3 course thumping that would follow you being thrown into the nearest ditch to sleep off your headache!!
:chillpill::chillpill::chillpill::chillpill::chill pill::chillpill::chillpill::chillpill::chillpill:
Hatton needed to be changed to some extent, or at least improved in many areas, he just picked the wrong guy to help him. It's like Manny and Roach. Manny is much improved since hiring him than he was before they got together. Hatton and Naz were both never going to beat elite fighters without making changes first themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddobeen saying that ever since they announced him as trainer... reeks of the same thing Manny Stewart done to Naz.Quote:
Originally Posted by KostyaTszyuTeam
I don't hear anybody saying that manny should have stuck with so and so. Some fighters learn new tricks and some can't.
QUOTE: that reminds me question to the first poster.... is Tszyu still making a comeback ?
No Ricky Hatton was his last fight, and that was four years ago now, and Kostya is 39.
I mean Ricky did what he had to do against Tszyu. It wasn't Kostya's night, as he has had better nights in his execution that what he did against Ricky. At the end of the day, Hatton totally controlled the PACE of the fight, abd was the better guy on the night.
Would Kostya Tszyu have more chance say in Vegas, with a ref who broke the inside action quicker, perhaps, as Tszyu style is on e that needs space so he can throw. He never really sought a rematch with Ricky, dont know mif he'd get one, but at the same time he didnt ask for one, and he took time out. One yaer became two, etc and he basicly let himself be retired. Now it's four years.
Officially, Tszyu said he's eggectively done in his most recent to date interview on youtube, though wont make it official until he engages some big new project, and cuts his pig tail. Word around, he's building roads in Russia$$$
Hatton was going to have a harder time withb Pacquiao, because ofthe style, best punch v a southpaw is the straight right. Ricky is mainly an inside fighter, so at range, HE PICKED THE WRONG TRAINER WHO GAME HIM THE WRONG INSTRUCTIONS. Head movement, get off it, that was just a plain bad strategy what ever Mayweather was cooking and the results speak for themselves.
At least the Tszyu loss was a relatively competitive fight and although he got caned on the wriong night, he did get Some things done did Tszyu in a relatively close fight in certain ways.
Mayweather embarrased Hatton worse than anything Tszyu ever did. Firsy thing i'd do would be blame the trainer who gave him instructions to fail. That was hopeless. Jab head movement. Every fighter Floyd sr gets, he wants them to be identical. I think the trainer has to adapat to the fighter.
Hatton can fight some other good names like Diaz, Judah, even perhaps a Mosely at the right price and still contend for a world championship. If Pacquiao gets beat by Cotto or Mayweather, they could both comfortably ignore eacj other Hatton and Pacquiao and do there own thing. Ricky is still a hard fight for most guys.
He'd still be in the top 10-20 after this loss in many opponnets eyes, a hard fight.
Best he take some time. Yes, Kostya was efefctively retired by Hatton. He had his turn at the top, which was a long one, World Champion 1995-2005. Tszyu supporters had there wins. Losing to Hatton didnt feel great, nor did the naysayers with quitting on the stool, as he was tough and never quit nything before.
Best to take stock, and see which guys are worth fighting for, before calling it a day. If he does go on they should both be interestiung capable opponents and sme good money, with the idea of winning a major 140 title, forget the p4p no1 thing. Very few fighters make it teir entire careervwithout a loss eventually. Pacquiao already has afew loses!!
Regards, chin up, you've got a good site here, keep your boy going
No food in the house, huh? :lolhaha: Damn them drug addict parents of yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI'll be having breakfeast at your shack. I don't give a fukk if you like it or notQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
only breakfast you`d get round mine would be a 3 course thumping that would follow you being thrown into the nearest ditch to sleep off your headache!!
Pac didn't let hatton maul him and push him to the ropes. Tszyu did. Watch how manny escaped every manhug that hatton tried on him. When hatton tried to hold manny's one arm and punch with the other, illegal tactic, many just held hatton's both arms and waited for the ref to break them up.
You lost that one, no matter what laughing smiley you used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseNo food in the house, huh? :lolhaha: Damn them drug addict parents of yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
only breakfast you`d get round mine would be a 3 course thumping that would follow you being thrown into the nearest ditch to sleep off your headache!!
That is true, Tszyu fought Hattons fight. Pacquiao didn fight long enough with Hatton to see how he would cope with inside pressure.
Further, every fighter post Tszyu fought Hatton as a very dangerous world class inside pressure fighter. Before Hatton beat Tzyu, noone knew how good Hatton really was at the elite level. PBF and Pcaquiao had that forewarning.
Nontheless, all 4 are diffrent fighters from Tszyu, to Hatton, to Pacquiao to Mayweather.
All have there own place in boxing fans thoughts. Hatton did Tszyu yes, his greatest win to date, perhaps it will be bhis best win, but he's not retired yet. Its the old saying od styles. Pacquiao beat Oscar and Gatton quicker than PBF, is he better. Not neccarily. Styles.
Tszyu is good against Southpaws with a right cross, De La Hoya had no right cross and wasnt good against Souythpaws.
Hatton beat Tszyu. Pacquiao beating Hatton, there are afew ways to look at things and take stock. What id Pacquiao gets done by PBF or Cotto. What if Hatton fights on wins a world title against one of the guys with belts and has afew good fights left, but never fights for the p4p spot again, being world champ is still a great honour. Maybe he will fight a third time for p4p no1 in future, who knows.
Tszyu did what he did, and he was a very long reigning champion. Jis time has past, but he was a great champion, proven over a long time span, and is held in the highest regard, first ballot hall of famer, and one of the best ever at 140.
He never fought outside 140, some guys do, climb weights, others dont. For Hatton, he can go on if he wanbts, but he needs the right reasons..