Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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Majesty
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Master
Welter is Mayweathers weight and the fight is at that weight so for the so called best fighter p4p why not fight the best fighters and challengers at that weight. :)
And Mayweather was undisputed welterweight champ and got no credit because of the names he did not fight.
Sometimes it's not about where you fight but also who you fight and at the time of their career. Fighting Marquez and Pacquiao would definately mean good for his p4p status. But as you've shown he wouldn't get any credit whatsoever.
It's more like Mayweather was disputed WW champ and he deserves not to get any credit because he didn't fight PWill, Cotto, and Margarito.
Pac is busy knocking out naturally bigger fighters, while Floyd is busy calling out naturally smaller fighters. Floyd should be ashame of himself.
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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Quinito
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Master
Welter is Mayweathers weight and the fight is at that weight so for the so called best fighter p4p why not fight the best fighters and challengers at that weight. :)
And Mayweather was undisputed welterweight champ and got no credit because of the names he did not fight.
Sometimes it's not about where you fight but also who you fight and at the time of their career. Fighting Marquez and Pacquiao would definately mean good for his p4p status. But as you've shown he wouldn't get any credit whatsoever.
It's more like Mayweather was
disputed WW champ and he
deserves not to get any credit because he didn't fight PWill, Cotto, and Margarito.
Pac is busy knocking out naturally bigger fighters, while Floyd is busy calling out naturally smaller fighters. Floyd should be ashame of himself.
P Will was unproven at the time, Margarito wasn't a draw and people use an excuse of Cotto not being experienced enough in his fight with Margarito. The same excuse would have been given if Mayweather had beaten him. Fact of the matter is, Baldomir and judah were the number 1 and 2 guys in the division at the time Mayweather fought them. And Mayweather beat them both.
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Quinito
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
And Mayweather was undisputed welterweight champ and got no credit because of the names he did not fight.
Sometimes it's not about where you fight but also who you fight and at the time of their career. Fighting Marquez and Pacquiao would definately mean good for his p4p status. But as you've shown he wouldn't get any credit whatsoever.
It's more like Mayweather was
disputed WW champ and he
deserves not to get any credit because he didn't fight PWill, Cotto, and Margarito.
Pac is busy knocking out naturally bigger fighters, while Floyd is busy calling out naturally smaller fighters. Floyd should be ashame of himself.
P Will was unproven at the time,
Margarito wasn't a draw and people use an excuse of
Cotto not being experienced enough in his fight with Margarito. The same excuse would have been given if Mayweather had beaten him. Fact of the matter is, Baldomir and judah were the number 1 and 2 guys in the division at the time Mayweather fought them. And Mayweather beat them both.
That's your personal view. Imo, PWill, Margo, and Cotto were/still big threat for Floyd. That's the reason why Floyd is calling out smaller men. What a fraud.
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
You never know, maybe Mayweather will try to impress Pacquiao and all the others and be aggressive for a change, but probly not. I hope JMM beats him like a drum!
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Master
Welter is Mayweathers weight and the fight is at that weight so for the so called best fighter p4p why not fight the best fighters and challengers at that weight. :)
Because when you are the best fighter you don't call people out, they call you out.
Marquez called Mayweather out and Mayweather responded. And he intends to fight Pacquiao.
You can dominate a weight division and get no credit whatsoever(example Klitschko in the heavyweights)
And Mayweather was undisputed welterweight champ and got no credit because of the names he did not fight.
Sometimes it's not about where you fight but also who you fight and at the time of their career. Fighting Marquez and Pacquiao would definately mean good for his p4p status. But as you've shown he wouldn't get any credit whatsoever.
Who would he fight at 147? Berto is inexperienced, Cotto is fighting Clottey, Williams vacated his title and has moved up to around middleweight apparently, who is left for Mayweather to fight at Welterweight? Shane Mosley is the only other name.
And yet if Mosley and Pacquiao fought no one would bash Mosley for fighting "the smaller guy" would they?
its selective criticism and hate when it comes to Mayweather ;)
Agree with your post. A lot of people just want to see Mayweather lose or be in a toe
to toe fight, you could include me in wanting to see that in the past. You are correct
in stating that if a strong Welterweight like Mosley fought Pac everyone would be cool
with that.
You are also correct that JMM called out Mayweather after his last fight with Diaz,
it wasn't Mayweather calling out JMM.
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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Quinito
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Majesty
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Quinito
It's more like Mayweather was disputed WW champ and he deserves not to get any credit because he didn't fight PWill, Cotto, and Margarito.
Pac is busy knocking out naturally bigger fighters, while Floyd is busy calling out naturally smaller fighters. Floyd should be ashame of himself.
P Will was unproven at the time,
Margarito wasn't a draw and people use an excuse of
Cotto not being experienced enough in his fight with Margarito. The same excuse would have been given if Mayweather had beaten him. Fact of the matter is, Baldomir and judah were the number 1 and 2 guys in the division at the time Mayweather fought them. And Mayweather beat them both.
That's your personal view. Imo, PWill, Margo, and Cotto were/still big threat for Floyd. That's the reason why Floyd is calling out smaller men. What a fraud.
How the hell is Margarito a threat for Floyd? and how is Baldomir, Oscar Dela Hoya or Hatton a smaller fighter than floyd?
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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Taeth
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Quinito
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Majesty
P Will was unproven at the time, Margarito wasn't a draw and people use an excuse of Cotto not being experienced enough in his fight with Margarito. The same excuse would have been given if Mayweather had beaten him. Fact of the matter is, Baldomir and judah were the number 1 and 2 guys in the division at the time Mayweather fought them. And Mayweather beat them both.
That's your personal view. Imo, PWill, Margo, and Cotto were/still big threat for Floyd. That's the reason why Floyd is calling out smaller men. What a fraud.
How the hell is Margarito a threat for Floyd? and how is Baldomir, Oscar Dela Hoya or Hatton a smaller fighter than floyd?
I wonder that too..
But I'd just ignore it, the guy thinks that Marquez will knock out Mayweather with one punch :rolleyes: Or rather will be behind in the fight and land a one punch KO on him.
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
I think it will. Which is surprising because it is two counte rpunchers, but I think Marquez will make it interesting, and Mayweather will pick apart Marquez with his pinpoint accuracy, and Marquez will have trouble with Mayweather's defense.
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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Nameless
This fight smells the controversy from here, the hype of a PBF and Pacman is way too high, I am really worried it'll play against JMM in the judges mind. At least, Bad Bob Arum's not behind Floyd anymore and Goldenboy is straight behind JMM, so it might edge that possibility a bit but I deeply worry that the hype of a huge PPV screw something.
I think JMM will lose via wide UD in this boring tuneup fight... PBF can possibly jab his way to victory.... PBF (72") enjoys a 5" reach advantage over JMM (67")....
History also showed JMM's style doesn't impress judges that much... JMM even cried that all his losses (John, PAC, etc.) were robberies and this only confirmed that JMM will not likely get the judges nod in a decision... JMM's style is boring also that of PBF... JMM/PBF were only in exciting fights if the opponent is a come forward exciting puncher boxer...
All indications points to a technical chess match between 2 counterpunchers waiting on who will attack first... Could come out a boring fight...:(
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Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
Before people start crying about Marquez getting gypped lets wait for this fight to actually happen.
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
I really don't think there is very much hype to this fight. Considering that either one of these guys have an argument to #1 p4p status. It is basically a forgone conclusion that JMM is a tune up for Pac. Even the PBF haters say JMM is too small so most of them even concluded that PBF is the winner. Albeit via excuses such as JMM is too small. Pac just KOed a PBF size fighter and dominated one even bigger. But with PBF he is held to a ridiculously high standard that no one else is. Pac fought at welterweight but he never took on any of the bigger threats such as PWill, Cotto, Margarito, or Mosley but where is his criticism. Roach said that he will not let Pac fight at 147 again. If that was PBF that would be called cherrypicking. I congratulate Pac because he is very impressive in fighting bigger guys but PBF actually fights bigger guys every fight at 147 and 154 and many at 140. Now that he is finally the bigger fighter he is called everything in the book. Nobody remembers when PBF begged for a Mosley fight when Mosley was a fearsome lightweight knocking out everybody. Mosley denied the fight twice and skipped 2 weight classes for DLH. Was Hagler picking on a smaller Leonard? PBF would not be a bigger fighter picking on a smaller one if he was not ultra talented but the last attribute is never admitted by the anti-PBF crowd. If PBF is better in every boxing aspect then in order for that next guy to have a chance he must be bigger. So this fight is an outrage to people who want to see PBF lose. Let JMM have a say. Maybe we'll get an interesting fight.
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
The fight will be a competitive
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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blegit
I really don't think there is very much hype to this fight. Considering that either one of these guys have an argument to #1 p4p status. It is basically a forgone conclusion that JMM is a tune up for Pac. Even the PBF haters say JMM is too small so most of them even concluded that PBF is the winner. Albeit via excuses such as JMM is too small. Pac just KOed a PBF size fighter and dominated one even bigger. But with PBF he is held to a ridiculously high standard that no one else is. Pac fought at welterweight but he never took on any of the bigger threats such as PWill, Cotto, Margarito, or Mosley but where is his criticism. Roach said that he will not let Pac fight at 147 again. If that was PBF that would be called cherrypicking. I congratulate Pac because he is very impressive in fighting bigger guys but PBF actually fights bigger guys every fight at 147 and 154 and many at 140. Now that he is finally the bigger fighter he is called everything in the book. Nobody remembers when PBF begged for a Mosley fight when Mosley was a fearsome lightweight knocking out everybody. Mosley denied the fight twice and skipped 2 weight classes for DLH. Was Hagler picking on a smaller Leonard? PBF would not be a bigger fighter picking on a smaller one if he was not ultra talented but the last attribute is never admitted by the anti-PBF crowd. If PBF is better in every boxing aspect then in order for that next guy to have a chance he must be bigger. So this fight is an outrage to people who want to see PBF lose. Let JMM have a say. Maybe we'll get an interesting fight.
agree with everything
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
This just has disaster written all over it. I am a big Marquez fan but I really can't see what he can do to the bigger,quicker Mayweather. Hopefully Mayweather has lost a step or two from the Hatton fight then I believe Marquez will hang with him. As for this not being a barn burner I think differently Marquez ALWAYS makes it a great fight. If Mayweather wants to fight against the ropes like he has done in more recent matches again Marquez will definetly battle with him. I do hope Marquez beats him but I just can't see it happenening
Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??
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P4PChamp
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Master
Welter is Mayweathers weight and the fight is at that weight so for the so called best fighter p4p why not fight the best fighters and challengers at that weight. :)
Because when you are the best fighter you don't call people out, they call you out.
Marquez called Mayweather out and Mayweather responded. And he intends to fight Pacquiao.
You can dominate a weight division and get no credit whatsoever(example Klitschko in the heavyweights)
And Mayweather was undisputed welterweight champ and got no credit because of the names he did not fight.
Sometimes it's not about where you fight but also who you fight and at the time of their career. Fighting Marquez and Pacquiao would definately mean good for his p4p status. But as you've shown he wouldn't get any credit whatsoever.
Who would he fight at 147? Berto is inexperienced, Cotto is fighting Clottey, Williams vacated his title and has moved up to around middleweight apparently, who is left for Mayweather to fight at Welterweight? Shane Mosley is the only other name.
And yet if Mosley and Pacquiao fought no one would bash Mosley for fighting "the smaller guy" would they?
its selective criticism and hate when it comes to Mayweather ;)
Agree with your post. A lot of people just want to see Mayweather lose or be in a toe
to toe fight, you could include me in wanting to see that in the past. You are correct
in stating that if a strong Welterweight like Mosley fought Pac everyone would be cool
with that.
You are also correct that JMM called out Mayweather after his last fight with Diaz,
it wasn't Mayweather calling out JMM.
Yea floyd accepted JMMs challenge....but he did slip,duck,dove,crawl under etc margaritos challenge right in to his face.
