Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
Yes Miles. If he regards JMM as a stepping stone then what does that make of Pac?
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SaddoBoxer
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Chino
Saddoboxer,
So if you keep saying that JMM is pretty much a stepping stone, no threat at all, and so on, then, does this mean that a so called "tune-up fighter" gave Pac two questionable decisions?
They have basically the same style and PBF is just the better, bigger and stronger version of JMM... A bigger excellent boxer, most of the time beats the smaller excellent boxer...
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So if PBF will pretty much step on JMM, does that mean he will also step on Pac?:rolleyes: I will be surprised if you say that Pac CAN LOOSE vs Mayweather. For you, is there such thing as Pac loosing?
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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Chino
Yes Miles. If he regards JMM as a stepping stone then what does that make of Pac?
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SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Chino
Saddoboxer,
So if you keep saying that JMM is pretty much a stepping stone, no threat at all, and so on, then, does this mean that a so called "tune-up fighter" gave Pac two questionable decisions?
They have basically the same style and PBF is just the better, bigger and stronger version of JMM... A bigger excellent boxer, most of the time beats the smaller excellent boxer...
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So if PBF will pretty much step on JMM, does that mean he will also step on Pac?:rolleyes: I will be surprised if you say that Pac CAN LOOSE vs Mayweather. For you, is there such thing as Pac loosing?
Styles makes fights...
I'm guessing PAC vs. PBF will be even on betting odds unlike here where PBF is a 4 to 1 heavy favorite...
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Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
If Floyd wins easy in July there's no way in hell Mayweather-Pacquiao get's to even odds. Floyd will probably end up at greater than a 2-1 favorite. Oddsmakers will not be influenced by Manny's wins over fighters who fight nothing like Floyd.
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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match
If Floyd wins easy in July there's no way in hell Mayweather-Pacquiao get's to even odds. Floyd will probably end up at greater than a 2-1 favorite. Oddsmakers will not be influenced by Manny's wins over fighters who fight nothing like Floyd.
OK let's see...
PBF UD12 JMM (??)
PAC SD12 JMM
PAC KO2 Hatton
PBF TKO10 Hatton
PAC RTD8 Hoya
PBF SD12 Hoya
Looking at the above results, PAC even looked like the betting favorite... So I think 50/50 odds is it considering all other factors...
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Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
Not a chance in hell Pac starts favourite over Floyd. You can bet on that. ;)
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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Fenster
Not a chance in hell Pac starts favourite over Floyd. You can bet on that. ;)
I'm guessing an even 50/50 starting odds ... unless PBF KOs JMM in the 1st round which is very unlikely...;)
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Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
Floyd has ALREADY been priced up as favourite, with some bookies, before beating Marquez.
Floyd - 4/6
Pac - 6/5
When Floyd beats Marquez his odds will shorten ;)
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
You're forgetting that PBF KO'd the Big Show.
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Fenster
Floyd has ALREADY been priced up as favourite, with some bookies, before beating Marquez.
Floyd - 4/6
Pac - 6/5
When Floyd beats Marquez his odds will shorten ;)
Is this from Vegas oddsmakers? Vegas and UK oddsmakers has some little differences...
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Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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AdamGB
You're forgetting that PBF KO'd the Big Show.
That is a very pertinent observation. It was 50:50 but this makes Floyd the favourite IMO and the bookies should reflect this. Furthermore Fenster talks only in facts so I'm inclined to believe him too. ;D
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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SaddoBoxer
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Fenster
Floyd has ALREADY been priced up as favourite, with some bookies, before beating Marquez.
Floyd - 4/6
Pac - 6/5
When Floyd beats Marquez his odds will shorten ;)
Is this from Vegas oddsmakers? Vegas and UK oddsmakers has some little differences...
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Yes they have little differences. I don't know the vegas odds but they wont have differences after Floyd beats Marquez, they will both have Floyd a stronger favourite. Trust me. ;)
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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Fenster
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SaddoBoxer
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Fenster
Floyd has ALREADY been priced up as favourite, with some bookies, before beating Marquez.
Floyd - 4/6
Pac - 6/5
When Floyd beats Marquez his odds will shorten ;)
Is this from Vegas oddsmakers? Vegas and UK oddsmakers has some little differences...
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Yes they have little differences. I don't know the vegas odds but they wont have differences after Floyd beats Marquez, they will both have Floyd a stronger favourite. Trust me. ;)
It all depends on how Floyd beats JMM on fight night and that will determine the odds for the Pac fight. If he knocks him out or boxes him to a wide unanimous decision then he would be a heavy favorite. But if he struggles like Pac did against JMM then PBF could be a 2 to 1 favorite or even when they fight.
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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Taeth
He draws the money, why shouldn't he be making it? He made what 8 million against Baldomir? This fight is going to be way bigger than that. Marquez will be making a shit load as well don't you worry.
Besides since when is fighting the p4p #2 considered taking an easy fight?
Ohhh I don't know.. When the fighters are about 3 weight divisions apart!!! Looks like PBF is taking the easy way out again. Old slower fighters, smaller fighters, overmatched fighters, all are welcome to the ring against Floyd!
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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jon09
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Fenster
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SaddoBoxer
Is this from Vegas oddsmakers? Vegas and UK oddsmakers has some little differences...
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Yes they have little differences. I don't know the vegas odds but they wont have differences after Floyd beats Marquez, they will both have Floyd a stronger favourite. Trust me. ;)
It all depends on how Floyd beats JMM on fight night and that will determine the odds for the Pac fight. If he knocks him out or boxes him to a wide unanimous decision then he would be a heavy favorite. But if he struggles like Pac did against JMM then PBF could be a 2 to 1 favorite or even when they fight.
not neccesarily
floyds beating world class opposition before without looking truly unstopable.
The key to beating mayweather is to not chase him down or attempt to fight him on the back foot but punch and move and try and rough him up on the inside whenever possible.
If floyd labours to a decision over marq in a scrappy contest id still mantain my opinion that pacs speed wont be as big an issue for floyd as it has been for everyone else and floyd wins a tactical contest between the 2 everyday of the week!!
Re: PBF getting $15 million for JMM fight??
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
match
If Floyd wins easy in July there's no way in hell Mayweather-Pacquiao get's to even odds. Floyd will probably end up at greater than a 2-1 favorite. Oddsmakers will not be influenced by Manny's wins over fighters who fight nothing like Floyd.
OK let's see...
PBF UD12 JMM (??)
PAC SD12 JMM
PAC KO2 Hatton
PBF TKO10 Hatton
PAC RTD8 Hoya
PBF SD12 Hoya
Looking at the above results, PAC even looked like the betting favorite... So I think 50/50 odds is it considering all other factors...
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OK let's see...
PBF 2 decision wins over Jose Luis Castillo
Hatton KO4 Jose Luis Castillo
apparently you're not too familiar with odds making