Re: The Five All Time Worst Boxing Decisions
Bad decisions and Sven Ottke were close buddies, ask Robin Reid, Charles Brewer and Byron Mitchell.
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Britkid
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Number one on my list is Lewis Holyfield I. Surprised that was not included.
Personally, I like the fact the author did not include that fight.
Yes, Lewis did deserve the decision, but he fought a very safety first fight in the opponents home country, and history says, normally that leads to disappointment.
For what ever reason, the fight became (the latest)
final straw for poor decisions, and it was investigated. But remember right or wrong, the British judge had the fight even, maybe the fight like say Leonard/HearnsII was a damning indictment of ten point must, rather than the judges?
Call it whatever you want, it was a terrible decision. Yes, lewis was cautious, but he boxed beautifully for a big man. No I would say it was a damning indictment of the judges, whatever scoring system you use, it was Lewis all the way.
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CGM
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Britkid
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CGM
Number one on my list is Lewis Holyfield I. Surprised that was not included.
Personally, I like the fact the author did not include that fight.
Yes, Lewis did deserve the decision, but he fought a very safety first fight in the opponents home country, and history says, normally that leads to disappointment.
For what ever reason, the fight became (the latest)
final straw for poor decisions, and it was investigated. But remember right or wrong, the British judge had the fight even, maybe the fight like say Leonard/HearnsII was a damning indictment of ten point must, rather than the judges?
Call it whatever you want, it was a terrible decision. Yes, lewis was cautious, but he boxed beautifully for a big man. No I would say it was a damning indictment of the judges, whatever scoring system you use, it was Lewis all the way.
But I would say it was not a terrible decision, merely a poor one, I had Lewis winning, but by two rounds, so I could understand, but not necessarily agree with a drawn verdict, particularly as the fight was in the USA.
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Britkid
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CGM
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Britkid
Personally, I like the fact the author did not include that fight.
Yes, Lewis did deserve the decision, but he fought a very safety first fight in the opponents home country, and history says, normally that leads to disappointment.
For what ever reason, the fight became (the latest) final straw for poor decisions, and it was investigated. But remember right or wrong, the British judge had the fight even, maybe the fight like say Leonard/HearnsII was a damning indictment of ten point must, rather than the judges?
Call it whatever you want, it was a terrible decision. Yes, lewis was cautious, but he boxed beautifully for a big man. No I would say it was a damning indictment of the judges, whatever scoring system you use, it was Lewis all the way.
But I would say it was not a
terrible decision, merely a
poor one, I had Lewis winning, but by two rounds, so I could understand, but not necessarily agree with a drawn verdict, particularly as the fight was in the USA.
Really? I thought Lewis dominated the fight. Anyways, it's ancient history. cheers mate.
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Hatton robbing Callazo should be included. As well as Marquez being robbed twice against Pacquaio
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CGM
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Britkid
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CGM
Call it whatever you want, it was a terrible decision. Yes, lewis was cautious, but he boxed beautifully for a big man. No I would say it was a damning indictment of the judges, whatever scoring system you use, it was Lewis all the way.
But I would say it was not a
terrible decision, merely a
poor one, I had Lewis winning, but by two rounds, so I could understand, but not necessarily agree with a drawn verdict, particularly as the fight was in the USA.
Really? I thought Lewis dominated the fight. Anyways, it's ancient history. cheers mate.
Hey, it is ten years or so old, hardly ancient history, you young Turk!;)
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Britkid
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CGM
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Britkid
But I would say it was not a terrible decision, merely a poor one, I had Lewis winning, but by two rounds, so I could understand, but not necessarily agree with a drawn verdict, particularly as the fight was in the USA.
Really? I thought Lewis dominated the fight. Anyways, it's ancient history. cheers mate.
Hey, it is ten years old, hardly ancient history, you young Turk!;)
Ha ha, I checked your profile, I'm a lot older than you. I guess I'm not really interested in debating whether it was a terrible decision , or merely a poor one. Naturally I am probably somewhat biased by the fact that it was a Canadian that was robbed. ;)
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Ha ha, I checked your profile, I'm a lot older than you. I guess I'm not really interested in debating whether it was a terrible decision , or merely a poor one. Naturally I am probably somewhat biased by the fact that it was a Canadian that was robbed. ;)
As a Brit, (as you may of guessed:p), I think we both can safely say Lewis was Jamaican, and our arguments are thus unbiased!;)
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Violent Demise
Hatton robbing Callazo should be included. As well as Marquez being robbed twice against Pacquaio
Marquez was not robbed twice against Pacquiao. They were two close fights with lots of close rounds that could have gone either way.
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Britkid
I remember Billy Hardy being screwed in a European Bantamweight Title fight in Italy, when one judge scored all the rounds even, except the 12th.
He got robbed against Orlando Canizales in their first fight as well. I worked all Christmas to buy a ticket for that one so I'm a little unbiased but he did beat him. He got robbed of his two best moments as a boxer, got his nose broken badly in the first round against Naz (although he was past it then.) He would have done well today with a good promoter.
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Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.
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Kirkland Laing
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Britkid
I remember Billy Hardy being screwed in a European Bantamweight Title fight in Italy, when one judge scored all the rounds even, except the 12th.
He got robbed against Orlando Canizales in their first fight as well. I worked all Christmas to buy a ticket for that one so I'm a little unbiased but he did beat him. He got robbed of his two best moments as a boxer, got his nose broken badly in the first round against Naz (although he was past it then.) He would have done well today with a good promoter.
He gave Canizales hell no doubt, but a split loss was fair(ish). Although, perhaps hometown advantage could of been more persuasive......
Fair dues to the classy Canizales though, he gave Billy his deserved rematch and showed how good he was, by dominating, all be it, on home turf himself.
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Britkid
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CGM
Ha ha, I checked your profile, I'm a lot older than you. I guess I'm not really interested in debating whether it was a terrible decision , or merely a poor one. Naturally I am probably somewhat biased by the fact that it was a Canadian that was robbed. ;)
As a
Brit, (as you may of guessed:p), I think we both can safely say Lewis was Jamaican, and our arguments are thus unbiased!;)
Lewis was hugely popular in Canada. Probably most Canadian fans, including myself, didn't really know his birthplace and childhood, and thought of him as a Canadian who moved to Britain to make a better dollar.
I was in the sports bar the size of a freaking barn that night, and it was packed to the rafters with guys that were pumped for the fight. There was a lot of unhappy people let me tell you. :mad:
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Violent Demise
Hatton robbing Callazo should be included. As well as Marquez being robbed twice against Pacquaio
Tell me your scorecard, could do with a laugh.