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Sorry I am now confused, who is this thread about ?? As for KT , tha guy was a great fighter but when people defend his loss against Hatton by throwing up the age question then ask youself why in the f**ck was he in there, cause he didn't rate hatton and got taken, age or not FACT .....he lost, go build a bridge.
It's a collective of facts in support of why Tszyu was infact an alltime great, one of the top two 140 pound fighters ever. Alot of that post was posted elsewhere in response to wanting to explain why Tszyus resume was as destinguished as I said it was.
True, he could still fight, even at near 36, but he hadn't fought in nearly 2 years, going only 3 rounds in that time..
Ricky Hatton was the better man on the night, cheers :cool:
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Originally Posted by KostyaTszyuTeam
No.. the post shows, based on his pro record, Kostya should be called a good fighter not a great one. He simply hasn't beaten (or fought) enough Grade 1 opposition.
If Kostya is great then many others, with similar records, like Hatton, should be called great too. But that's not the case.
And the very fact a PRIME Kostya was whooped by old Vince Phillips is an unforgiving, glaring stain on his "greatness."
Well to me KT is very overrated by people i mean his resume is that of Hatton they are the same no other way for me to look at it at all. As for him being great i really dont think he deserves that title really i mean you can put him in top what ever 140 people but not the word great no. As for the JCC win please dont make me laugh Oscar finished anything that was left on that dude as for him not getting fights with big boys well Phillips kicking his ass kinda put a dent on the Mosley or Dela Hoya fights.
How dare you the great Kostya beaten by a club fighter.... i wont hear of it ;D
I like poking holes in this one. Fact is, we are in a lot better position to judge whether or not TSZYU is past it after seeing him fight, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I think he hasn't gotten over the Kostya loss to Hatton ;D
guess using your logic we can ask, Is Tzsyu a chicken shit for quitting on his stool and then running into retirement, ala Hamed?
do i think that? no
do i think that Hatton is a club fighter? no, he's a former 3 time world champion, held world titles in 2 divisions and was the man at 140 twice, IMO he's a top 10 junior welter of all time, but do i think he's one of the greatest fighters of his time, no
Hatton got away with every foul cuz the ref was in his pocket. FactQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
That's opinion not fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHatton got away with every foul cuz the ref was in his pocket. FactQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
"I have nothing to be ashamed of - I lost to the better fighter. I never felt that Ricky could beat me, but it happened. Everyone can be beaten. This is life." Kostya Tszyu
That's from the horses mouth. Fact.
It's just very convenient. Besides Tszyu never made any suggestions that it was a fight too many for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGMI like poking holes in this one. Fact is, we are in a lot better position to judge whether or not TSZYU is past it after seeing him fight, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
There is no evidence or circumstances that would make him past it
Only35 years old
31 fights
No wars
Just coming off arguably best career performances
WHAT WHAT WHAT does the Hatton-Kosta thing has to do with the original question? To my eyes, nothing. No matter if Tszyu or Hatton has been the best, it doesn't mean Hatton was a club fighter. As far as I am concerned, Hatton is a very good boxer, he's just not top of the elite and his life style plus his "absorb blows" type of defense are simply shortening his career by a couple of years but nowhere because he has been battered by two of the top boxers in the world or the "where does he stand" compared to Kosta means he's releagued to a club boxer status.
So a loss (albeit a dismantling) to the top fighter in the world make you club fighter?
Hatton is a very good fighter. Not great.
KT is a great 140. The Hatton-KT fight was an ugly lesson in dirty boxing. KT fought the wrong fight and lost. Hatto's tactics made me ill, but they were effective.
Well I'm not sure I heard the argument for this the first 5 times you brought up the exact same information, could you please repeat it.
Clearly this is not a wind up thread, and KostyaTzsyu'sPowerRangerSquad is simply looking to inform.
Jesus Christ mate, your like a broken record, seriously go back to the Kosta site where you belong, you are pathetic. This is a boxing site mate not a site where we get our cocks out over Kosta and try to belittle an opponent who beat him, get over it mate, it was four years ago, re build your life its not to late. Life will go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by KostyaTszyuTeam