Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
just dont see why on earth the pacquiao would take this.
Shane Mosley is the smartest boxer in the middle/lower divisions and has already proven time and time again he can counter aggresive fighters by fighting off the back foot.
If shane can make weight and doesnt become an old man over night then i dont see how pacquiao can stop him which would be his only way to win the fight as he sure as hell aint outpointing mosley!
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
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hattonthehammer
just dont see why on earth the pacquiao would take this.
Shane Mosley is the smartest boxer in the middle/lower divisions and has already proven time and time again he can counter aggresive fighters by fighting off the back foot.
If shane can make weight and doesnt become an old man over night then i dont see how pacquiao can stop him which would be his only way to win the fight as he sure as hell aint outpointing mosley!
Shane won't become and old man over night, in boxing years he's is already methuselah. Everything is relative. He didn't look old against Margachito because he was methodical and slow as molasis. Against Pacquiao he'll look like he's slowed and people will blame it on the weight. Mosley will be overwhelmed by Pacquiao's speed and stamina of youth by comparison. What will make it this fight competitive is Shane's advantage in weight and ring savvy. Shane will not make it to the 11th round.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
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Jimboogie
Floyd is making People put on Weight to fight him.
Pacquiao is asking people to loose weight to fight him.
What is going on???
Mosley is fine at 147 fighting natural 147lb'ers. If Pacquiao wants to fight Mosley then he should allow Mosley to fight at the 147 limit.
Boxing is such bollox these days its untrue :-\
I agree, it's fucking crazy, a fight at a catchweight for a 147 title just makes no sense, greed is doing such huge damage to boxing it's actually changing it. The big draws are all making fights at weights they have no business at, convincing us it will still be entertaining and we pay to see yet another weight drained or undersized fighter get slaughtered.
Sad times
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
I while go with Shane Mosley and i dont think he while drain him self like Oscar Dela Hoya think he is to smart to let that happen to him.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
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Mr140
I while go with Shane Mosley and i dont think he while drain him self like Oscar Dela Hoya think he is to smart to let that happen to him.
I hope you're right. But he wasn't smart when he took immediate rematches with Forest and Wright imo, so we'll see
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
Did not think he did so bad in rematch with Forrest and Wright was just plain bad match up but he want to know for sure but we will see. Think he trying to get and win all the big fights to make his spot in history. He going for it all because he was to be rember with the other sugars like Leonard and Robinson and we well see if he can get to that level of greatness.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
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BIG H
If the fight is made at less than 147, then it could be ODLH all over again and that would be pointless!!
If it's at 147 I think Shane will destroy him
I was about to say that. I don't think any boxing fan would like that. Another moving punching bag that brings no challenge? No thanks. If Mosley is going to win or lose, I want to see him bring all the tricks in his bag and really see A FIGHT.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
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BIG H
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Originally Posted by
Mr140
I while go with Shane Mosley and i dont think he while drain him self like Oscar Dela Hoya think he is to smart to let that happen to him.
I hope you're right. But he wasn't smart when he took immediate rematches with Forest and Wright imo, so we'll see
To his credit though, he did give a better account of himself each time.
Im just worried because i know he struggled to get off 1st against Cotto and i am now in a process of sussing out whether or not Pac is that guy also.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
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Originally Posted by
Jimboogie
Floyd is making People put on Weight to fight him.
Pacquiao is asking people to loose weight to fight him.
What is going on???
Mosley is fine at 147 fighting natural 147lb'ers. If Pacquiao wants to fight Mosley then he should allow Mosley to fight at the 147 limit.
Boxing is such bollox these days its untrue :-\
People are calling Floyd for doing this aswell :confused:.Pac apart from Hatton fought an old De La Hoya and made him come down in weight,Is he hoping that Mosley will be the shot at that weight like Oscar was,either way its very smart not to fight them at there natural weight.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
Yes and IT'S very dumb for Mosley NOT to fight at his natural weight.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
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Jimboogie
Yes and IT'S very dumb for Mosley NOT to fight at his natural weight.
It's all about the money. Mosley isn't going to be nearly as effective below 147, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was a repeat of the ODH fight. I won't give Pac much credit should he win, because I think it's an almost certain thing should Mosley be forced to come in at 144, which sucks because I really think Pac could beat him at 147.
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BlackHawk
In my opinion the title is on the line. Pacquiao has only 2 to 3 fights left. So I think in case he won the title we will not defend it. Or in case scenario Pacquiao will fight Andre Berto after this at no catch weight in 147lbs because Manny have a chance against him without catch weight. And the last will be against Miguel Cotto.
If Pacquiao wins? I not telling he will win but he have a chance. You know Pacquiao - he is unbelievable and he always SHOCK the world. ;)
My hearts tells me Manny Pacquiao will win this fight but my brain tells me Mosley will win... :confused: I don't know. But the real deal is if Manny Pacquiao wins this one. The critics will say:
Oh Manny Pacquiao wins because his to old
or
Oh Shane Mosley is dehydrated!
or
Oh Shane Mosley is not in his prime anymore.
I sick and tired hearing this thing. No matter how many excuses the critics made. Manny Pacquiao is already an All Time Great. ;D;D;D In case this are the reasons why Pacquiao wins. Let Me say this to critics - SHAME ON YOU! Manny Pacquiao fought BIGGER opponents and you don't give a damn credit? SH*T :D What a as* Hole!
if Mosely looses and doesn't look dehydrated then why would people say he was dehydrated?
if he is dehydrated there will be a sharp contrast between his sharpness and stamina compared to his last fight. We will be able to tell... we wouldn't just make it up because we don't like pac (Everybody likes Pac... though some of his fanboy nut hugging fans are irratating and make you want him to lose just to shut them up... which is unfair on pac)
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
I just read press releases that this fight has yet to be a "done" deal, contrary to what we already are discussing here plenty. The same report likewise indicated that the Mosely camp may have exercised misleading the press, in indicating the certainty of this fight.
The PacMan tho' has not rejected the possibilty of a fight with SS Mosely, nor validated the veracity of theses initial reports, nevertheless he left this task to the promotional/training arm of his group.
However as of today, any of that sort has yet to be official. Last word was that Bob Arum, his promotional outfit, denied any such deals had been made, and any such fight as officially "on".
So... not so fast, Shane.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
Just to clarify, this is a welterweight title fight at a lower catchweight :confused:
huh, well the just proves that even if PAC wins the "welterweight" title, he has no intention of keeping it. Unless maybe he fights a few lower tier fighters at 147.
Delusions of grandeur for PAC it sounds like.
Re: Manny Pacquiao VS Shane Mosley
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Originally Posted by
BIG H
If the fight is made at less than 147, then it could be ODLH all over again and that would be pointless!!
If it's at 147 I think Shane will destroy him
Agreed but it wont be at 147
Id give Pac props if he met Mosley at 147 like all the other welterweight fights in history but not if he makes a 38 year old drain down from light middle. Does Pac feel he is above the sport or summat .