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Wlad KO'd Ray Austin in two and didnt even throw a right hand. Wlad has a better arsenal than most lower weight class fighters. Wlad hooks off the jab better than any fighter I have ever watched. He didnt even use that vs Ruslan. Is the Ruslan fight the only one of Wlad's you have watched?
So you must not be a Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, or Roy Jones fan either....Cause all three of those guys are careful defense oriented and do not like to take chances.......At least Wlad KO's most of his opponents....Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Wlad throws variety of punches. I think what the thread starter talking about are his 2 money punches aka signature punches.
Uhh please do not compare Wladimir Klitschko to those fighters, Roy Jones Jr was excellent to watch in his prime, he could rattle off 5 punch combinations in a blink of an eye, he also had spectacular KO's, and watching him avoid punches just by using his reflexes was masterful to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterSo you must not be a Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, or Roy Jones fan either....Cause all three of those guys are careful defense oriented and do not like to take chances.......At least Wlad KO's most of his opponents....Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Floyd Mayweather Jr may not be as exciting at the higher weightclasses, but thats because he's no longer the bigger man. Unlike Wladimir Klitschko has always been in all his fights, but he is still way more exciting to watch, and he has had some great exciting boxing masterclasses, and he's been in some dramatic exciting fights.
Bernard Hopkins hasn't been as fan friendly in the last few years or so, but when he is exciting which he has been quite alot of times. Especially in his younger career when he was a come-forward fighter. He is a pleasure to watch.
You cant compare Wlad to those 3. He is a heavyweight and usually has a big physical advantage over his opponents because there is no max. size a heavyweight needs to be. Those other guys fought within a limit. Plus all those guy would put blazing combination together and mix it up with their opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterSo you must not be a Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, or Roy Jones fan either....Cause all three of those guys are careful defense oriented and do not like to take chances.......At least Wlad KO's most of his opponents....Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
No disrespect but from, what ive seen of him he isn't that good. He just has physical and height advantages over everyone else in the division. He's sort of like the LeBron James of boxing. He looks good only because he has no one else to challenge him in his position. As Lebron has maybe only one or two people at Small Forward that are good defenders to challenge him in the NBA so he is very dominant. Wladimer has no one that can match his height or physical talents in the heavyweight division so he looks dominant. Its probably why he isn't gonna lose anytime soon but he is the best heavyweight in the division not because he's ultra super skilled but because he is a big fish in a small pond.
If with only 2 good punches he mangles the whole division repeatedly, I really don't want to see what he could do if he decides to do more. Boring? Well, he's a Kronk Gym's type of fighter. Effective? Nothing better in the division, at the moment (except perhaps his brother).
Majesty, i think you got it exactly right. His huge physical advantages gives him a big edge over almost anyone. The skills of his opponents usually only dictates how many round the will last with him, but even a much more skilled fighter than himself would still be overwhelmed by his size/power.
I dont think its a case of heart or desire as much as his previous defeats being in the back of his mind.Tea spilled over shit.He has honed up his defense behind an often floatie buffer zone jab in a big way to keep his chin insured.I think that eventually someone will drag him into a fire fight and he'll have to press forward to make it through....show the mentality of a finisher when its not on his terms.He needs to bring that righthand more.....its a wrecking ball.He may be smart to steer away from throwing too many uppercuts.Leaves him all heeeeello and bent over.
I do wish Wlad would throw one of those steel-hammer righthand shots into someones guts now and again.
The good Doctor will loose sooner or later and it will be a case of a big punch sneaking around that telephone pole he shoves up a fighters nose.
It gets old after awhile, Dr. Klitschko. You are becoming the Lance Armstrong of heavyweight boxing. Soon the big speculation will be which man is the second best. Oh, that would be your carbon copy brother...
Klitschko is a perfect 101 Boxer. If you have an athletic fighter who is taller than his opponents pop in a video of Wlad and say this is exactly how you out box your opponent by throwing the one two. He is perfect, but in terms of excitiment he is very boring which does hurt how you compare him with the all-time greats. Why is Mike Tyson so popular and why is he in the top 10 Heavyweight boxers of all-time is because he is exciting.
I consider him to be a two-punch fighter as well. I seldomly see him throw any uppercuts and his left hook is something he is thinking about in order to throw instead of it coming out naturally.
Maybe one of these days he can fight someone that can bob and weave. But unfortunately, with the shape of most of the heavyweights, they would tire out in 2 rounds of head movement.
WTF?!?! Wlad's left hook is devistating!!!! He hooks off the jab better than anyone I have ever seen.
The only reason he seemed to use just the 1-2 vs Chagaev is because Ruslan is a southpaw and that would open Wlad up to counters.
Witht he left hook and the left hook ALONE Wlad has: knocked down Ray Mercer and KO'd any number of opponents, the most impressive being Ray Austin as the shear SOUND of the punch tells you all you need to know about how effective it is, when I hear it, it reminds me of Hearns-Duran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_sWnawpU4
1 big left hook and 4-5 to follow up...no killer instinct my ass
i agree that can't really compare Wlad to the 3 mentioned, but him being a HW has nothing to do to it, yea he has a big size advantage, but that's still against guys that can crack anyone with a single shot, so i have no prob with cautious heavies, only thing i can't stand is if they don't engage period, like Ruiz, Wlad still gets the knockouts, can't expect him to go to war every time out, and still have the level of success he's had, and last very long either, he's a good championQuote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoomYou cant compare Wlad to those 3. He is a heavyweight and usually has a big physical advantage over his opponents because there is no max. size a heavyweight needs to be. Those other guys fought within a limit. Plus all those guy would put blazing combination together and mix it up with their opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterSo you must not be a Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, or Roy Jones fan either....Cause all three of those guys are careful defense oriented and do not like to take chances.......At least Wlad KO's most of his opponents....Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
i remember an article i read and it pretty much sums it up pretty well, fighters like Wlad probably wont be appreciated until he's long gone, he takes on the best possible opponants out there, is willing to take on anyone, and 9 times out 10 he knocks them out, give the guy a break
He knocked out Ray Austin with a left hook. He barely threw the right in that fight. The frustrating thing about watching Wlad is that he has a much larger arsenal than he chooses to use in a given fight. If he's tagging a guy with 1-2's and not getting hit, he'll just keep it up until a right lands perfect or he wins a UD. He doesn't get creative and take any chances to try to finish. He should have gotten Chagaev out there about round 5 if had any kind of killer instinct.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB