Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
'Never heard that kind of excuse from Hatton fans. So far the majority of them blames Ricky himself for not following the game plan.
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.
Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.
Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.
There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?
Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.
Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?
if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.
Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.
Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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AdamGB
Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.
Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.
Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.
There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?
Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.
Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?
if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.
Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.
Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.
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Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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skel1983
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.
Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.
Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.
There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?
Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.
Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?
if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.
Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.
Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.
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Ditto that.
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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generalbulldog
I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.
So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?
Discuss.
Hatton groupies are some of the biggest idiots around. The only bigger idiots out there are the ones who actually believe what they say. Some think he can actually return and be champion at 140 again. What does that tell you?
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.
So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?
Discuss.
Hatton groupies are some of the biggest idiots around. The only bigger idiots out there are the ones who actually believe what they say. Some think he can actually return and be champion at 140 again. What does that tell you?
I know, stupid isn't it. I read some fan say Casamayor still had it in him to school Edwin Valero. Some fans are just blinded by the past that they lose touch with reality. ;D
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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skel1983
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AdamGB
Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.
Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.
Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.
There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?
Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.
Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?
if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.
Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.
Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.
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Ditto that.
Me too. Very good post, Adam. Pretty much spot on all the way through.
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
And I think Hatton was weight drained. It seems a lot of the rumours regarding Hattons camp did turn out to be true. Hatton drying out before the fight is probably no lie either. But no excuses, the fight was 6 minutes long. It wasn't as if Hattons stamina could be questioned. But all other aspects of his performance can be strutinised. So at the end of the day he probably was drained but it didn't have bearing on what happened.
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.
So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?
Discuss.
Hatton groupies are some of the biggest idiots around. The only bigger idiots out there are the ones who actually believe what they say. Some think he can actually return and be champion at 140 again. What does that tell you?
He is really 122 and needs pies chips and beer to make 140 :spongebob:
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
I think some people confuse offering a reason for his defeat as making an excuse. I am a Hatton fan but was straight up in praising Pac for doing the job. Ricky tries to be one of the lads and be 'normal' but doesn't realise that he simply can't.
Was he weight drained, maybe, regardless of that he didn't last long enough for it to be an issue as someone else has stated. There may have been to odd person trying to ecuse Hatton but I think even most of his fans on here were simply critical of him. In the end it wasn't a weight issue that got him it was simply not being able to change his ways in the ring.
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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bzkfn
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.
So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?
Discuss.
Hatton groupies are some of the biggest idiots around. The only bigger idiots out there are the ones who actually believe what they say. Some think he can actually return and be champion at 140 again. What does that tell you?
I know, stupid isn't it. I read some fan say Casamayor still had it in him to school Edwin Valero. Some fans are just blinded by the past that they lose touch with reality. ;D
School Valero? Impossible. The mans resume speaks for itself. Just look at all the top fighters he's beaten
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
His lifestyle definitely didnt help his training camps. But in this case he could of had the perfect training camp and the perfect conditioning and he still would of lost exactly like he did. Why? Because ever since the tszyu win, hatton never really showed that he could implement a gameplan that didnt involve going face first. He would always get the macho thing going and try and throw his weight around, pac was prepared for that and knocked him the fuck out. Fighting with emotion is good but to the point where it takes over your brain is bad and thats what hatton was.
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.
Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.
Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.
There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?
Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.
Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?
if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.
Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.
Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.
Used to be a huge Hatton fan til soon after Tzsyu when this ridicilous 'man of the people' marketing started to go over board.
Elite boxers are blessed physically and MENTALLY, while he had the strength and enigine to be a a 140 great, he just didn't have the ring smarts and understanding to go any further, wether he'd had Futch,Roach Steward in his corner, it would always be his undoing. Rather than preparing for his opponents best weapons, he chose to believe that he had the natural attributes to negate it, confidence is one thing but ignorance is another.
Re: Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?
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Bomp
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.
Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.
Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.
There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?
Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.
Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?
if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.
Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.
Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.
Used to be a huge Hatton fan til soon after Tzsyu when this ridicilous 'man of the people' marketing started to go over board.
yeah... how can you be humble if you brag about being humble? :rolleyes: ;)
